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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 27/08/2020 :  19:44:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the geographic location of this farm from the 1875 Census?
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0426&kenr=007&bnr=0065&lnr=00

I'm also curious to know what is there now.

Thanks, Tom

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 27/08/2020 :  21:50:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In this area



In the centre of this photo:



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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  16:12:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks jwiborg. How did you determine this? Is this the exact location or a general area? I realize land boundaries can change over time, so the properties/buildings may have changed.

On the census, does Vaaler and 0426 indicate the same thing? Is Hammeren the name of a farm or group of farms? Typically, would this family have owned the farm or just lived on the property with other families?
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  17:19:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom - As a person living in Norway jwiborg may have recognized the area by it's name. As an American of Norwegian descent I didn't recognize it at all - SO I typed "Vaaler Norway" into my favorite Internet search engine (currently Google). It quickly returned a list of websites specific to "Våler". The first two websites were very helpful - Wikipedia and FamilySearch.org.
The FamilySearch entry even lists the Hammeren farm but of course does not specify whether a single farm or a grouping. You'll have to turn to more detailed sources to learn that.
The census page you've pointed to is the only information currently available about the ownership of the farm. It lists an occupation for the head of that household and you should try to translate that to learn more about his status at that domicile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A5ler,_Norway
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/V%C3%A5ler_Parish,_Hedmark,_Norway_Genealogy
https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/ae-o-a-0-9/#0

Try the easiest Internet searches first.

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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  17:35:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In FamilySearch, it lists the Farm Number as 218e, so probably the 5th family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7NQ-FNN?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=KH1P-BY6

In the 1865 census, it also lists him as the owner. but the Domicile name is Smedstad, not Hammeren:
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0426&kenr=008&bnr=0016&lnr=000

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TomHammer
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  17:54:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose if I could find a copy of this book online, it would tell me more: Bugge, Alex.: Våler Bygdebok, 1936. Anyone know if it's available online?
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  18:50:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is available online at the Norwegian National Library website, here, but only for Norwegian IP-addresses. To access it from abrooad I suppose you can use some VPN service.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2020 :  19:52:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The challenge is that there were several small farms/households with the name Hammeren in the township, and I think none of them exist today.
To get an exact location of this household, you might need to check with some local historians, or older people in the neighborhood.

But I'm quite confident it was in this area (yellow circle). I think there was 1 Hammeren at the red cross on the map, but at said, there were 3 more nearby.



Edited by - jwiborg on 29/08/2020 12:28:35
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MLamberton
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USA
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Posted - 04/09/2020 :  03:58:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new to this website. Thank you for accepting me.
My ancestors are from Norway - I'm told they lived on the Rolla farm. Where do i even begin to locate these records?
Thank you so much.

Mindy Lamberton
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ToreL
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Norway
427 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2020 :  05:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MLamberton

I'm new to this website. Thank you for accepting me.
My ancestors are from Norway - I'm told they lived on the Rolla farm. Where do i even begin to locate these records?
Thank you so much.


You should start a new topic for your question. (Link in the upper right area on this page.) Almost all Norwegian farm names were used to identify different properties in different parts of Norway, so in order to find the correct one, you should tell us what you know of your ancestors who emigrated. If you have seen different spellings of the name, perhaps with a special Norwegian letter, that would also be relevant.

Edited by - ToreL on 04/09/2020 05:44:12
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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 15/09/2020 :  18:57:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

The challenge is that there were several small farms/households with the name Hammeren in the township, and I think none of them exist today.
To get an exact location of this household, you might need to check with some local historians, or older people in the neighborhood.

But I'm quite confident it was in this area (yellow circle). I think there was 1 Hammeren at the red cross on the map, but at said, there were 3 more nearby.






With so many farms names Hammeren, do you know the origin of the name? Why would someone choose this name? Does it mean anything in Norwegian?

Thanks
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jwiborg
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Norway
4782 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2020 :  19:59:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomHammer

With so many farms names Hammeren, do you know the origin of the name? Why would someone choose this name? Does it mean anything in Norwegian?

Thanks
A "Hammer" is a steep, almost vertical, rock wall or knoll.
A bit strange in this regard, because the area of Våler, Hedmark is quite flat.
Maybe there is a small knoll nearby...?

Edited by - jwiborg on 15/09/2020 21:47:52
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 16/09/2020 :  17:23:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you seen this llist of emigration from Våler? If you search for Stræthammeren here, you find most or all of the family members from the 1875 and 1865 censuses, emigrating from 1878 and onwards. Curiously, Stræthammeren appears separately from Hammeren in the 1875 census.
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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 16/09/2020 :  18:02:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ToreL: I have found their census and emigration records, but had not seen this list.

jwiborg: What does Stræthammeren mean?

Thank you both!
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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 16/09/2020 :  18:37:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ToreL: Is there a list like this for people leaving Romedal, Hedmark? I'm still looking for the emigration of Anton Pedersen (b. 1855). A brother in the family,,but worked in Romedal during the 1875 Census and then is listed in the 1885 Minnesota Census as Anton P Hammer.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0416&kenr=001&bnr=0048&lnr=00
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jwiborg
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Norway
4782 Posts

Posted - 16/09/2020 :  21:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomHammer

ToreL: I have found their census and emigration records, but had not seen this list.

jwiborg: What does Stræthammeren mean?

Thank you both!

Stræti...Stræte actually originates from a foreign word... Street!
It came into the language rather early as a designation for street or road, and can be seen in many norwegian farmnames.Not so much used (as far as I know) in the language today, but farmnames never change, only the spelling might differ.
So maybe Stræthammeren means "The road to the rock wall..."

Edited by - jwiborg on 16/09/2020 21:25:21
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