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Helge Svarstad
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  16:31:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am searching for my Great great grandfather Rasmus Olai Hanson born in Davik Norway first of March 1856. He emigrated without his family and I have no reliable information about him except the Declaration of second february 1900 in New York.
In the 1940 United States Federal Census from Duluth, St. Louis Minnesota there is an inmate at Cook home for the poore with the same name, nationality, and estimated birth year 1857. In Park Hille Semetry, Duluth, there is a grave in the name of Rasmus Hanson 1856-1942. In Minnesota Deaths 1887-2001 there is a Rasmus Hansen, Borne in Norway 1856 with correct fathers name and dead in Duluth 29. of May 1942. I feel i am close to conclude with that my Great great grandfather died in this poorhouse. Anyone who can help?

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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  18:35:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Rasmus Hanson in FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94224531/rasmus-hanson

Here is a Rasmus Hanson in 1930 census who is married with a kid:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3DX-FTH

Since he says that he came in 1915, this might be the gent in the 1930 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000211756

If her name is mis recorded in the 1930 census but is actually Petrine and that she came in 1916 this maybe her:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000212781

Probably the Olaf Hanson in the 1930 census birth record transcribed:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000030336053

The 1930 couple Rasmus and Kattrine /Petrine living in Ransom county North Dakota in 1920, the county location of Englevale N.D.:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCDS-3K7

Likely the daughter Sena in the 1920 census, birth baptism transcribed:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000030338798

The family in Norway 1910 census, Rasmus, Petrine, Olaf and Hansine:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036910002327

Here is a Rasmus Hanson in 1940 census in the Cook Poor Farm:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSV7-KT9

Edited by - jkmarler on 01/05/2022 20:17:32
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ToreL
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  19:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the 1942 Duluth death certificate where the father's name is given as Hans Rasmussen. Note that the wife is named Pettrene.

Then there is one Rasmus Hansen arriving in 1915, with a wife named Petrine Henriette. His last residence in Norway is given as "Hemues", likely a misprint for Hemnes, and he leaves his Petrine behind in Helgeland, quite a stretch from Davik.

The pair Rasmus Hansen and Petrine Henriette Olausdatter baptise at least five children in Hemnes in the years 1891-1902. According to the 1900 and 1910 censuses this Rasmus was born in "Vaage" on 1856-06-30. Towards the bottom of the page in the 1900 census, there is one Hans Rasmussen, also born in "Vaage(n)" in 1828, a likely father for Rasmus, and possibly the one figuring on Rasmus' 1942 death certificate. Also notice Kristine Fransen in 1900, below Hans Rasmussen. The two match well with the parents in this 1856 Vg baptism for a child Rasmus born 06.30 in that year.

Edited by - ToreL on 01/05/2022 22:36:58
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  19:27:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm afraid that your Rasmus Hansen b Davik is a different person than the Rasmus Hansen in the Cook poor farm. Most likely that man came from Hevne my bad, Hemnes.

Is this your Rasmus?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038271001942

Marriage in 1877 for Rasmus #5:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. A 6, 1867-1881, p. 228
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310123

Edited by - jkmarler on 01/05/2022 20:53:54
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  21:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Rasmus L Hansen emigrated in 1884. But he is listed as unmarried, so probably not the right person.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000672455

Edited by - AntonH on 01/05/2022 22:51:15
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  21:41:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a baptism record for a child for this couple, born in 1882,

quote:
Marriage in 1877 for Rasmus #5:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. A 6, 1867-1881, p. 228
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310123


https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000014353443

And another child in 1896

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000002063032

Wife Signe died in 1893

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002629932


Edited by - AntonH on 01/05/2022 21:45:50
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/05/2022 :  21:53:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the baptism of Rasmus Olai, Nr 13

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070302620441

And the family in the 1891 Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053021000920

Looks to be the same person found by Jackie in her above post.

Maybe he left after the death of his wife?

Oops missed this comment in the record for the death of his wife

(Utvandret til Amerika 1892)

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002629933

Edited by - AntonH on 01/05/2022 22:20:06
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ToreL
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Posted - 02/05/2022 :  15:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1900 citizenship declaration mentioned on top is this. It refers to something in June of 1893; can someone explain?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/05/2022 :  17:04:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is his declaration of intention (i.e. "first" papers) to become a citizen. What it says that he arrived in US in June 1893. This declaration is a minimum requirement to take a US Federal land homestead and that is usually why you see them taken.

It doesn't give any biographical information on him and there is a Rasmus Olai Hansen Roiseth who did arrive probably in May 1893:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000688862

This man's birthyear is not correct 1867 to be target Rasmus unless the 6 in 67 was a misinterpretation of a 5 as in 57.

Edited by - jkmarler on 02/05/2022 17:17:27
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/05/2022 :  17:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This proclamation deals with the death of Rasmus' father Hans Rasmussen. It mentions Rasmus Hansen as living near Ledsund by Christiansund, unless I'm wrong about that:
https://www.nb.no/items/20e02ed703f17a40f6345be28f21cb94?page=0&searchText=%22hans%20rasmussen%22
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/05/2022 :  19:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1891 Census Rasmus Olai Hansen Midhjeld is found at Midhjeld, Davik but the census adds that his Sedvanlig bosted: is Nedrebaklande 27 Trondhjem.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01053021000920
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/05/2022 :  07:45:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knowing the date in 1900 for his declaration, if land was indeed his objective, here are the filings to Rasmus Hansons Rasmus Hansens after 1900 at glorecords.blm.gov:

View Patent Image ND1270__.457
PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 10/1/1901 4370 ND 5th PM 163N - 077W SWSW 15 Bottineau
163N - 077W NNW 22 Bottineau
163N - 077W SENW 22 Bottineau
--- COCOAA 027408

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 6/2/1903 36684 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 007W 12 San Juan
042N - 007W San Juan
--- COCOAA 027409

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 6/15/1903 36732 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 006W 7 San Juan
042N - 007W 12 San Juan
042N - 007W San Juan
--- COCOAA 028221

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 7/1/1903 36781 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 006W 7 San Juan
042N - 006W San Juan
--- COCOAA 027283

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS,
PatenteeMERRILL, N C 4/9/1904 38492 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 007W 11 San Juan
042N - 007W 12 San Juan
042N - 007W San Juan
--- COCOAA 027495

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 3/1/1905 40587 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 007W 1 San Juan
042N - 007W 2 San Juan
--- COCOAA 028240

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 3/8/1906 43474 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 006W 6 San Juan
042N - 006W San Juan
--- COCOAA 027574

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 10/20/1906 44554 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 007W 15 San Juan
042N - 007W 16 San Juan
042N - 007W San Juan
View Patent Image MV-0650-184

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 9/6/1907 3576 SD 5th PM 104N - 075W NE 27 Lyman
--- SDMTAA 055317

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 9/6/1907 3576 SD 5th PM 104N - 075W NE 27 Lyman
View Patent Image 2629

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 7/16/1908 1969 CO New Mexico PM 042N - 006W 7 San Juan
042N - 006W San Juan
View Patent Image 136062

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS L 6/13/1910 010681 ND 5th PM 163N - 098W NW 29 Divide
View Patent Image 693903

PatenteeHANSON, RASMUS 6/28/1919 019657 ID Boise 018N - 002W WSW 33 Adams
018N - 002W SNW 33 Adams

--- IDIDAA 042145

PatenteeFS,
PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS,
PatenteeUSA 6/15/1938 ID Boise 002N - 007E 31 Elmore
View Patent Image 1053690

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS,
PatenteeKENISON, JOHN 3/3/1932 061288 MT Montana PM 016S - 011W WSE 5 Beaverhead
016S - 011W ESW 5 Beaverhead
View Patent Image 945999

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS W 10/13/1924 09164 CO New Mexico PM 036N - 016W WNE 29 Montezuma
036N - 016W ENW 29 Montezuma
View Patent Image 829980

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 10/28/1921 018521 ID Boise 002N - 007E 31 Elmore
View Patent Image 824487

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 9/22/1921 020690 MT Montana PM 015S - 011W SENE 34 Beaverhead
View Patent Image 784998

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 12/4/1920 022250 MT Montana PM 035N - 023E EW 30 Blaine
035N - 023E Lot/Trct 1 30 Blaine
035N - 023E Lot/Trct 2 30 Blaine
035N - 023E Lot/Trct 3 30 Blaine
035N - 023E Lot/Trct 4 30 Blaine
View Patent Image 757355

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS H 6/17/1920 022309 MT Montana PM 012N - 030E NE 12 Petroleum
View Patent Image 559772

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS M 12/26/1916 08841 ND 5th PM 159N - 091W NW 10 Burke
View Patent Image 316849

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 2/24/1913 05172 ID Boise 008S - 032E WNE 19 Power
008S - 032E NENW 19 Power
008S - 032E Lot/Trct 1 19 Power
View Patent Image 218635

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 7/24/1911 01940 CA Mount Diablo 004N - 013E SENW 32 Calaveras, San Bernardino
View Patent Image 133224

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS M 6/1/1910 01513 ND 5th PM 161N - 088W SWSW 20 Ward
View Patent Image 129808

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS C 5/12/1910 03337 ND 5th PM 159N - 066W ESW 29 Towner
View Patent Image 105535

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 1/24/1910 03630 ND 5th PM 152N - 082W SE 27 Ward
View Patent Image 72306 PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS A 7/15/1909 0754 SD Black Hills 002N - 018E NNE 25 Haakon
002N - 018E SWNE 25 Haakon
002N - 019E Lot/Trct 1 30 Haakon
--- SDMTAA 048376

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 10/24/1906 7219 SD 5th PM 120N - 072W NW 14 Faulk
View Patent Image ID0510__.329

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS E 7/15/1904 4098 ID Boise 001S - 037E WSE 34 Bingham
001S - 037E ESW 34 Bingham
View Patent Image ID0150__.458

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 1/27/1904 3192 ID Boise 033N - 002W NSE 12 Lewis
--- MTMTAA 055889

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 4/8/1903 4952 MT Montana PM 009N - 009W NSW 34 Powell
009N - 009W SENW 34 Powell
009N - 009W SWSW 34 Powell
View Patent Image ID0480__.134

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 12/15/1902 3554 ID Boise 016S - 037E SNE 13 Franklin
016S - 037E NENE 13 Franklin
016S - 037E NESE 13 Franklin
View Patent Image NE0420__.109

PatenteeHANSEN, RASMUS 5/27/1901 6069 NE 6th PM 031N - 027W Lot/Trct 2 3 Cherry
031N - 027W Lot/Trct 3 3 Cherry
031N - 027W SNW 3 Cherry
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/05/2022 :  07:59:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#22 Rasmus leaving for Bergen in 1876:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. A 6, 1867-1881, p. 315
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310212

#73 Daughter Marie Jakobine? birth baptism:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. A 6, 1867-1881, p. 92
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070109390687

#4 Piger as Maria Jakobia confirmed:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. B 1, 1882-1900, p. 85
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310388


#1 daughter Hansine birth baptism:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. B 1, 1882-1900, p. 5
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310308

#7 Hansine confirmation:
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. B 1, 1882-1900, p. 95
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310398

#3 in 1894
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. B 1, 1882-1900, p. 140
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310442

There is a note on the far right column, does it relate to this search?



Edited by - jkmarler on 03/05/2022 09:11:18
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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/05/2022 :  18:47:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

#3 in 1894
Davik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-79701: Parish register (official) no. B 1, 1882-1900, p. 140
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110310442

There is a note on the far right column, does it relate to this search?

The note is a comment to the question in column 10; Has a doctor been called during the deceased's last illness?
The answer to the question is No; and the note says "Was summoned, but could not come due to illness."
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/05/2022 :  20:14:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

In the 1891 Census Rasmus Olai Hansen Midhjeld is found at Midhjeld, Davik but the census adds that his Sedvanlig bosted: is Nedrebaklande 27 Trondhjem.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01053021000920



So what was Rasmus' occupation that would allow a farm and also a city residence?
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/05/2022 :  22:28:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
So what was Rasmus' occupation that would allow a farm and also a city residence?


The census says Hustmmermann; house carpenter. Probably easier to find relevant employment in Trondheim.
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