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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/10/2016 :  23:57:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bjørn got married again in 1947, at the age of 62.

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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 05/10/2016 :  00:36:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler


20.055.15.024
Bjørn Deichman-Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1918-05-11 - 1980-10-02
 
Bjørn Johan is a son of Bjørn Sverre Deichman-Sørensen & Ingrid nee Christiansen. Bjørn Johan was arrested by the Germans in 1941, and sat 3 years in Sachsenhausen until end of WW2.


Edited by - jwiborg on 05/10/2016 00:47:18
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 05/10/2016 :  01:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting among the godparents of Bjorn Johan were Bjorn Sverre's and Rolf's brother and sister.

Here is Bjorn Sverre and 2nd wife at DIS gravminner:
1894734 
Margarethe Deichman Sørensen 
0107 1906 
1903 1993 
2503 1993 
AA 07 076 Hoff Østre Toten

1894735 
Bjørn Sverre Deichman Sørensen 
0503 1885 
1601 1965 
2201 1965 
AA 07 077 Hoff Østre Toten

Edited by - jkmarler on 05/10/2016 02:14:47
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 05/10/2016 :  14:23:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the index to Oslo sailor records left hand page Rolf is listed with hoved number 9335.

SAO, Oslo sjømannskontor, F/Fa/L0002: Register for Kristiania krets, 1866-1930, p. 443-444
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/ru10040910220175

His record shows only one voyage on the Mabelle out of Drammen to some other county (utl.) in 1905 #9335:
SAO, Oslo mønstringskontor, F/Fc/Fca/L0004: Annotasjonsrulle, 1897-1908, p. 327
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/ru20090416640337

It might be this vessel the Mabella:
https://www.sjohistorie.no/no/skip/18391/

The earliest newspaper report about the Mabella found at elephind.com was that she was in the port of Bunbury in Australia on 21 Dec 1906 having arrived from Port Natal. Not sure how long such a voyage would last.

The captain of the Mabella in the 1910 Norwegian census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036458026819

And in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037106017080

It appears that we still have a gap of about 12 years between the records in Norway on Rolf Sørensen and the records in US about Ralph Rivers.


Edited by - jkmarler on 05/10/2016 17:48:51
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 05/10/2016 :  18:51:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Ralph has to come to Mary or Mary has to come to Ralph.

Here is Mary in the 1910 census at Bristol, Rhode Island:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP6K-F7M

1920 Census, not yet married:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJVF-68S

Edited by - jkmarler on 05/10/2016 18:54:00
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 05/10/2016 :  21:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rolf's next eldest brother Birger Trygve Johan Sørensen also put to sea between 7797 and 7798, at least one voyage to US:
SAO, Oslo mønstringskontor, F/Fc/Fca/L0004: Annotasjonsrulle, 1897-1908, p. 40
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/ru20090416640042

Here is the other record associated with Birger's maritime life #4151
SAO, Oslo sjømannskontor, F/Fc/L0004: Hovedrulle, 1904, p. 115-116
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/ru10051003110065

This is perhaps Birger the brother in the 1900 census. What is waisenhusbarn?
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037045005232

He came to US and lived in New York

He named a son Ralph who died young:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WN2-L5F

1920 Census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ5J-CMT

1930 census, 2 daughters Lillian and Alfild:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4J3-7KS

1942 Draft Reg b 24 Sept 1886 Oslo:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F36V-NWR

A possible cousin you never met? Lillian Sorensen Hogrebe?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK71-M5VV

This Lillian looks promising because her mother Mrs. Jennie (Nilsen)Sorensen died at the home of her daughter Mrs. Knut Hogrebe on 15 Nov 1969 in Enfield Mass. Only survivors mentioned by name are the daughter and a brother Nils in Norway.Reported in the Springfield (Mass.) Union 17 Nov 1969,


Edited by - jkmarler on 06/10/2016 17:48:31
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2016 :  00:20:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be valuable to have Harda Deichmann-Sørensen's dodfallsprotokol, it is in the index 10 /10 1935 1191 I but when I got to look at the book, a block message came up and said adoption records are private for 100 years since adoptions are sometimes disclosed in probate records this leads to probate records being blocked as well. I wonder if there is an obituary for Enkefru Deichmann-Sørensen?
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lyndal40
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Posted - 06/10/2016 :  16:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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What is waisenhusbarn?


Hmm? waisen in german is orphan Seems to translate as orphanage. But in german orphanage would be waisenhaus?

Edited by - lyndal40 on 06/10/2016 16:44:57
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2016 :  18:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
What is waisenhusbarn?
Waisen = Orphan
Waisenhus = Orphanage
Waisenhusbarn = Orphanage child
Waisenhusbestyrer = Orphanage manager
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2016 :  18:59:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm Rolf's Birger would only have been 1/2 an orphan so might not be him but if the child is not, then where is he in 1900?
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peder
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Posted - 07/10/2016 :  14:25:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
birger trygve seems to be here in the 1900 census. name Trygve

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0301&kenr=019&bnr=0015&lnr=01
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/10/2016 :  00:59:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have today been in contact with a granddaughter of Bjørn Sverre!
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2016 :  01:31:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

I have today been in contact with a granddaughter of Bjørn Sverre!



Way cool! Now if we can only get the O.P. to come back....

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/10/2016 01:35:30
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Ashley K
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Posted - 30/10/2020 :  17:03:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

I have today been in contact with a granddaughter of Bjørn Sverre!



Way cool! Now if we can only get the O.P. to come back....




Hi! I am the original poster's cousin's grandchild Ashley! My Gramma Joyce wanted to thank you all for taking the time and researching our Family! I believe my Gramma said her cousin (the op) lost her code or something for her account, hence why she never got back. But on their behalf.. thank you so much! Sorry it took so long to respond.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2020 :  23:55:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for response. Do you have any questions about the findings?
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