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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 29/03/2026 : 20:14:42
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This seems likely to be Marie living in Brooklyn in 1883 listed as a widow.
Maria Smith
in the U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995
Name Marcus Smith
Age 76
Birth Date Abt 1804
Birthplace Norway
Home in 1880 Bath, Steuben, New York, USA
Dwelling Number 105
Race White
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Occupation Shoemaker
Months Not Employed 12
Sick Age
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age
Marcus Smith 76
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2469/records/1207661942
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Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2026 20:16:10 |
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 29/03/2026 : 20:42:02
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| The 1853 New York marriage record posted above carries the exact same date supplied by the thread starter. Does the record give a year of birth for the bride as well? Someting to confirm the 1825 estimate from the passenger list? A little more input than ca.1825 and "some place starting with Fryden" might be enough to find her in Norway. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/03/2026 : 21:13:34
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Does the record give a year of birth for the bride"
No, only country of origin, |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2026 : 21:16:39
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This is probably her in the 1880 Census. Living in Brooklyn while husband is in upstate New York.
Maria Smith
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name Maria Smith
Age 55
Birth Date Abt 1825
Birthplace Norway
Home in 1880 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Street Degraw Street
House Number 45
Dwelling Number 83
Race White
Gender Female
Relation to Head of House Mother-in-law
Marital Status Widowed
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Winfield Davison
22
Self (Head)
Kelly Davison
22
Wife
Maria Smith 55 Mother-in-law
John Smith
24
Brother-in-law
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/6742/records/1877942?tid=206415278&pid=302703033295&ssrc=pt
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AntonH
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 29/03/2026 : 23:22:59
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Karen's profile above links upwards to further ancestors, while Hans' profile doesn't, and tracing his roots may prove to be harder; at least Finn C. Knudsen, who wrote a "bygdebook" for Gjerpen and Porsgrund in 1948, stated that "hans oprindelse kjendes ikke"; his origin is unknown. (Here is a scan of the relevant double page.)
But note that two sisters are mentioned. That could be useful... |
Edited by - ToreL on 29/03/2026 23:50:45 |
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AntonH
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ToreL
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Posted - 30/03/2026 : 09:17:20
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Originally posted by AntonH
A Family Tree on Ancestry.com has this person as the father of Hans.
Matthias Eriksen Smith
BIRTH CA. 1730
DEATH 25 JUN 1796 • Osebakken, Porsgrunn, Telemark, Norway
No sources
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/167707687/person/112582643029/facts
This same info is also stated on this website with a version of the 1801 census for Gjerpen, expanded with info from other sources. See family 26. The abbreviation "s.a" means "sønn av"; son of. |
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MaggieFiery
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Posted - 01/04/2026 : 06:15:53
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Yes! This is my Mathias H Smith! The family assumed he took the name Smith when he arrived in the USA. He was a shoemaker and a Civil War veteran who passed away in the New York Soldiers and Sailors Home, Bath NY, in 1882. I obtained his marriage record from his pension file at the National Archives in Washington DC. His wife, Inger Marie or Maria, lists numerous maiden names (Frydenberg, Larsen, Neilson) in the vital records that I have obtained. I assume she is from Frydenberg, went by Larsen, and perhaps one of her parents was named Nielson.
I will need a little time to digest all the fantastic information that both of you have provided. The Ancestry tree noted by AntonH is my working tree. I made a mistake in counting the number of greats when I first posted on this forum - Mathias H Smith is my second great grandfather and Hans Mattiaeson Smith would be by third great grandfather.
Many many thanks!! |
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jkmarler
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MaggieFiery
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Posted - 01/04/2026 : 23:57:53
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StephC
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Posted - 22/04/2026 : 21:20:23
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Captain Hans Jørgen Mathiassen Smith (abt 1763-15 August 1807) is my 4xGGrandfather and your 5xGGrandfather since you are looking for information on his son Matthias Hansen Smith.
Hans married Karen Knudsdatter Riis (1764-1837) in a part of Porsgrunn called Osebakken. Hans was lost at sea when his ship was sunk by the British on their way to "sort out" the Danish who had allied themselves with Napoleon. As many as 11 other ships from Porsgrunn were all sunk at the same time. The next few years were catastrophic for Norway because of the blockade enforced by the British during the Napoleonic wars.
Anyway, Matthias Hansen Smith, born on the 26th October 1803, was the younger brother of my 3xGGranny, Maren. I have a lot more info on the family if you would like to mail me.
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StephC
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Posted - 22/04/2026 : 23:18:34
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By the way, the name Frydenlund is a very common surname as well as a place name. People tended to use their patronym and then pop the name of the farm where they lived on the end, although this was less common during the latter part of the 19th century.
Matthias' mother's maiden name Riis was from the farm in Gjerpen (the countryside around Porsgrunn) on which she grew up. Her mother, Ingeborg Erichsdatter Lunde, came from a farm called Søndre Lunde, Søndre meaning south.
The tree that someone mentioned is that of a distant cousin of mine and we have shared a lot of info! |
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