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xavijohn
New on board
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 Posted - 21/02/2005 : 03:58:49
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Seeking any and all information on Sami/Norwegian Nils Paul Xavier family (great-grandfather) , his wife Amanda and two sons, Karl (my grandfather) and Johan (great uncle) who emigrated in 1873.
I am working both personally and professionally on family history, especially from the Sami viewpoint. They came to USA in Sept of 1973. Nils Paul was godson to Paul Gaimard and Xavier Marmier who were leaders of Expedition Scientifique du Nord in 1838-39 (visit to Kautekeino).
I will later post some items that may help in gaining clues.
Thanks in advance to anyone corresponding. Anyone can send materials in English or French (fluent in both). I apologize for not knowing much Norwegian.
Takk! Merci! Thanks! John E. Xavier |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Tami_jenson
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 22/07/2005 : 19:50:53
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Hello!
I found a confirmation for Nils Paul Xavier when he was 15 1/2 in the churchbook for Kautokeino, Finnmark. The date of the confirmation was 1 april 1855. His parents are listed as Johannes Olsen Tornesis and Marith Persdatter (kvænangen)
Johannes Olsen Tornesis is still alive in the 1865 census and living with another of his sons (brother of Nils Paul) Mikkel Johannesen Tornesis. Here is that page of census: <a href="http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1865&knr=2011&kenr=001&bnr=0067&lnr=00">http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1865&knr=2011&kenr=001&bnr=0067&lnr=00</a>
When I have a chance to visit the genealogy library I will check the early records of Kautokeino and see how many more children of Johannes Olsen Tornesis and Marith Persdatter. There could be many of them since Mikkel was born in 1818 and Nils Paul not until 1839. Perhaps Johannes was married twice.
another note of interest is the ocupation listed on the 1865 census for Nils Paul Xavier. He living in Lyngen, Troms, Norway as a "Skolelærer" which means School teacher.
Sincerely,
Tami Jenson
http://www.troms-slekt.com
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Tami_jenson
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 22/07/2005 : 20:29:54
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Hello Again,
Nils Paul Xavier married his wife Amanda Magdelene Carlsdatter Norum in Alta, Finnmark, Norway on January 9, 1868. Here is their marriage record: http://www.rhd.uit.no/kirkebok/kbliste.aspx?kb=v&RR=20222
They then moved to Lyngen, Troms, Norway where they had the following children:
- 1. Karl Born: 17 feb. 1869, Eidebakken, Lyngen, Troms, Norway
- 2. Johan Ulrik Born: 26 jun 1870, Eidebakken, Lyngen, Troms, Norway
- 3. Anna Charlotte Born: 14 Dec 1872, Eidebakken, Lyngen, Troms, Norway
You can see the records here: http://www.rhd.uit.no/kirkebok/kbliste.aspx?kb=d&RR=99608
Amanda Magdalene Carlsdatter Norum was born in Alta, Finnmark, Norway on the 9th of January 1849. Her parents were Carl Norum and Charlotte Nylander. Here is her birth record: http://www.rhd.uit.no/kirkebok/kbliste.aspx?kb=d&RR=116901
And here is her family in the 1865 Census: http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1865&knr=2012&kenr=002&bnr=0003&lnr=00
Sincerely,
Tami Jenson
http://www.troms-slekt.com
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xavijohn
New on board
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Posted - 04/08/2005 : 20:26:29
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To Tami,
Thanks. I have already made some use of your reply. You can expect to hear from me again later.
John E. Xavier |
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xavijohn
New on board
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Posted - 04/08/2005 : 20:38:04
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To Tami,
I forgot to mention that indeed Nils Paul Xavier's father was married twice. My records on that are stored across town, and not on disc. I will try to clarify for you.
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danfjeld
New on board
USA
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 06:49:36
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Hello!
I have information on Nils Xavier. I am the caretaker of a 19th century Minnesota parsonage with the church at the end of my long driveway. Reverend Xavier served this church and was the preacher when this house was built. He and his family moved into the house on Christmas Eve 1878. We have some information here as well as a few photographs. If you are interested feel free to contact me.
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Trond
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Norway
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 23:32:00
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| Xavier, Nils P, fra Lyngen, Finnmarken, emigrated 1873; luth. Priest from1876 first in Renville, Co. Minn, next in Wineshif Co, Ia and later since 1905 Parkland Wash. |
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xavijohn
New on board
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 20:39:54
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quote:
Originally posted by danfjeld
Hello!
I have information on Nils Xavier. I am the caretaker of a 19th century Minnesota parsonage with the church at the end of my long driveway. Reverend Xavier served this church and was the preacher when this house was built. He and his family moved into the house on Christmas Eve 1878. We have some information here as well as a few photographs. If you are interested feel free to contact me.
Dan
Dear Mr. Fjeld,
Thanks for your reply. I haven't been out to Franklin for some time, but will in Aug or Sept. I'm building up quite a bit of information on NP Xavier and family, and so anything you have is appreciated.
By the way, any Hoimyr families are related at NP's sister Anna Johanson (Johnson) married a Hoimyr. Also any Norums or Norems, as Mrs. NP, Amanda, was a Norem/Norum)
My email is xavijohn@hotmail.com - please feel free to communicate directly.
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LJSharp
New on board
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2025 : 23:08:19
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Does anyone have the names of siblings of Rev. Nils Paul Savier (Tornesis)? Names, dates of life, etc.
Thank you for any tips!
Lin |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2025 : 16:25:23
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Johannes Olsen Tornensis
in the Geneanet Community Trees Index
Name Johannes Olsen Tornensis
Gender M (Male)
Birth Date 1780
Birth Place Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norvège (Norway)
Death Date 13 avr. 1869 (13 Apr 1869)
Death Place Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norvège (Norway)
Father
Olof Andersen Andersson Tornensis
Mother
Marit Svendsdatter Risti
Spouse
Berit Isaksdotter Haetta
Marit Persdatter Kvenangen
Child
Mickel Johanessen Tornensis
Johan Johanesson Tornensis
Berit Johannesdatter Tornensis
Brita el Berit Johannesdatter Tornensis
Karen Johannesdotter Tornensis
Svend Johannesen Tornensis
Isak Johannsen Tornensis
Nils Paul Xavier Olofsson Olsen Tornensis
Marit Johansdatter Tornensis
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/07/2025 : 16:31:29
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Male Johannes Olsen Tornensis
Born in 1780 - Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norway
Deceased April 13, 1869 (Tuesday) - Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norway, aged 89 years old
Buried April 18, 1869 (Sunday) - Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norway
Parents
Olof Andersen Andersson Tornensis 1740-
Marit Svendsdatter Risti 1739-
Spouses and children
Married to Berit Isaksdotter Haetta 1784-1825 with
Male Isak Johannsen Tornensis 1805-1880
Male Johan Johanesson Tornensis 1809-
Female Marit Johansdatter Tornensis 1812-1887
Female Karen Johannesdotter Tornensis 1814-1855
Female Berit Johannesdatter Tornensis 1815-1898
Male Mickel Johanessen Tornensis 1819-1876
Married to Marit Persdatter Kvenangen 1805-1865 with
Male Svend Johannesen Tornensis 1832-1860
Female Brita el Berit Johannesdatter Tornensis 1836-1908
Male Nils Paul Xavier Olofsson Olsen Tornensis 1839-1918
Siblings
Male Morten Olsen Olofsson Tornensis 1765-1825
Male Anders Olsen Olsson Tornensis 1766-
Male Svend Olsen Tornensis 1768-1843
Female Kirsten Olsdatter Tornensis 1768-1824
Male Peder Olsen Olsson Tornensis 1771-
Male Ole Olsen Tornensis 1773-
Female Sara Olsdatter Tornensis 1776-1855
Male Johannes Olsen Tornensis 1780-1869
Female Inger Olsdatter Tornensis 1783-1858
Sources
Individual:
- Bengt Roger Kåven - Bengt Rogers slekt
MyHeritage släktträd Släktsajt: Bengt Rogers slekt Släktträd: 69529542-10 - Discovery - 69529542-10 - Johannes Olsen Tornensis - 4 JUL 2017 - Tillagd genom en Smart Match
- per gaup - gaup Web Site
MyHeritage släktträd Släktsajt: gaup Web Site Släktträd: 369171391-1 - Discovery - 369171391-1 - Johannes Olsson Tornensis - 13 FEB 2018 - Tillagd genom bekräftelse av en Smart Match
- rikard lindmark - Linutti Web Site (Smart Match)
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Edited by - AntonH on 03/07/2025 16:33:49 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2025 : 16:41:39
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This Tree on Ancestry.com adds a Ane born 1842
Ane Johansen Tornensis
1842–
BIRTH 07 JAN 1842
DEATH Unknown
Mother is Marit Pedersdatter
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/105203051/person/232341143240/facts
And this source
Ane Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name Ane Johansen
Gender Female
Birth Date 7. jan 1842 (7 Jan 1842)
Baptism Date 20. feb 1842 (20 Feb 1842)
Baptism Place , Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norway
Father
Johannes Olsen Tornensis
Mother
Marit Persdr Qvaenangen
FHL Film Number 124232
Birth
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Edited by - AntonH on 03/07/2025 16:59:06 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9459 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2025 : 16:54:46
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The Tree on Ancestry also adds this Inger
Inger Johansen
1810–
BIRTH 14 JAN 1810
DEATH Unknown
and this source
Inger Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name Inger Johansen
Gender Female
Birth Date 14. jan 1810 (14 Jan 1810)
Baptism Date 21. jan 1810 (21 Jan 1810)
Baptism Place , Kautokeino, Finnmark, Norway
Father
Johannes Olsen Tornens
Mother
Bereth Isachsdr
FHL Film Number 124232
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/2592897?tid=105203051&pid=232338406902&ssrc=pt
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2025 : 17:03:49
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Here is the list from the Ancestry.com Tree
Spouse and children
Marit Pedersdatter Qvænangen (Kvenangen)
1805–1866
Swenson J. Tornensis
1831–
Berith Johansdatter Tornensis
1836
Niels Paul Xavier Johansen
1839–1918
Ane Johansen Tornensis
1842–
Spouse and children
Berit Isaksdatter Hætta
1784–1825
Isak Johannessen Tornensis
1805–1880
Johan Tornensis
1809–
Inger Johansen
1810–
Marith Johannesdatter Tornensis
1812–1887
Karen Johnsdatter Tornensis
1814–1855
Berith Johannesdatter Tornensis
1815–1898
Mikkel Johannesen Tornensis
1819–1876
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AntonH
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Nils Paul Xavier, Amanda family emig 1873
