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Haldis
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Norway
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Posted - 19/05/2007 :  21:33:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anne Johannesdatter b. 1891
Gudrun Johannesdatter b. 1893
Johannes Johannesen b. 1894

All born in Lom, Gudbrandsdalen. Their parents name: Johannes and Ingebjørg (Embjør).

The 3 immigtated to Minnesota in 1913. I wonder if they settled there, if they married and had children. Maybe anyone could help me with some information?

tlwright65
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USA
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Posted - 19/05/2007 :  21:58:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm....I'm finding a John Johannesen b abt 1894 arriving in New York on 18 May 1914, his birth location is listed as Gudbrandsdalen and it looks like his nearest relatives are Johannes Torgersen and Ingeborg Johannesdatter? living in Brummundalen, Norway? I'm not finding anything on the other 2.
Tami
Edited by - tlwright65 on 19/05/2007 22:00:24
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tlwright65
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USA
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Posted - 19/05/2007 :  22:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, it might help if we had actual birthdates for them instead of just the years. If they settled in Minnesota and died in Minnesota, it would really help!
Tami
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Haldis
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Norway
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Posted - 19/05/2007 :  22:17:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anne b. 11.12.1981
Gudrun b. 26.09.1893
Johannes b. 23.09.1894

I dont know if they settled in Minnesota. Sorry
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Lislcat
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USA
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  20:10:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was wondering about their farm name, so here is the 1900 Norway census.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f00514&gardpostnr=7&personpostnr=33&merk=33#ovre

Wanda
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Lislcat
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  00:36:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the three of them on the Hellig Olav. http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=35&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=225636&merk=225636#ovre

You can see that they used the last name Kleven.

Here's is there arrival information from Ancestry.com.
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7488&iid=NYT715_2088-0916&fn=Anne&ln=Kleven&st=r&ssrc=&pid=4012047814

There destination is listed as Nielsville, MN.

In 1917, Johannes Kleven is living in Nielsville, MN. His WWI draft registration card says that he is a single farmer in the Township of Hubbard.
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6482&iid=MN-1675775-1715&fn=Johannes&ln=Kleven&st=r&ssrc=&pid=32700206

In the 1920 census, he is working as a hired man in Hubbard, Polk Co., MN. http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=MNT625_851-0089&fn=Johaness&ln=Kleven&st=r&ssrc=&pid=85792940

I haven't found Anne or Gudrun since finding their arrival. My guess is that they may have both gotten married before the 1920 census. They may be in Polk County, MN near Johannes.

Wanda
Lislcat
Edited by - Lislcat on 24/05/2007 02:27:38
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Haldis
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  00:50:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all!
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Lislcat
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  15:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haldis,

Just curious, but do you know where the name Kleven comes from? I thought that maybe it had been the name of the farm where their father was born, since on the ship's passenger list, they list their father as Johannes Kleven of Lom.

From the 1900 census, you can see that the farm name of their farm is Hovtyen.

Good luck!
Wanda
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Lislcat
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USA
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  17:07:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For those of you who don't have Ancestry.com, here is the ship's passenger list of the Hellig Olav from Ellisisland.org. You may need to sign in, but it's free.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/viewTextManifest.asp?MID=06832674410172046848&FNM=A&LNM=KLEVE&PLNM=KLEVE&SYR=1913&EYR=1913&first_kind=1&last_kind=1&town_kind=0&ship_kind=0&RF=6&pID=100644140190

Wanda
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Lislcat
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  17:19:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once you've found the manifest on EllisIsland.org, you need to click on "next page" , since they've shown the wrong page of the original manifest. Then about half way down the page, you'll find the Kleven's.

Wanda
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Haldis
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Norway
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  21:20:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lislcat! No, I dont know why they chose the name Kleven. You are right, The farm they came from was Hovtyen. A difficult name to use in the states probably..
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  00:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
here is a drawing, reconstruction of "Husmannsplassen" /cotters place Hovtye in Lom after what was left of eight ruins:
http://www.gjeilo.no/fotoarkiv/view.php?photo_id=397&screen=0&action=s%F8k&keyword=Jon+%D8yjordet

The name Kleven migt be after one of their parents, there was a farm Kleiven in both 1865 and -75 census in Lom

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 22/05/2007 00:24:23
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