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jkmarler
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 Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:34:34
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A styrmand Lars Dahl age 21 coming into Trondheim Domkirken in 1827:
#61 indflyttedes for sailing
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 601/L0045: Ministerialbok nr. 601A13, 1821-1831, s. 528
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070921620029
says he is coming from Christiansund/ Christiansand
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:52:09
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That would have put his birth year about 1806. Maybe this one
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:55:14
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Maren Marie's confirmation # 22 also Bakklandet
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0182: Parish register (official) no. 604A03, 1818-1850, p. 83
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918660509
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 21:29:10
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A marriage between 38 year old widow Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter (father is Anders Holm) and Jonas Qvam. # 3 also Bakklandet:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0182: Parish register (official) no. 604A03, 1818-1850, p. 109
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918660527
I think it says she was born Christiansund or Christiansand. Two different places, one of which the records have burned.
The reference is the groom's birthplace and residence.
Jonas Qvam in 1875 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052359022523
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 22:18:30
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Maybe you are on to something
Anders Holm
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anders Holm
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 okt 1800 (1 Oct 1800)
Marriage Place: Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway
Spouse: Torborg Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 127314
Reference ID: 2:1LFR0P4
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 23:02:38
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The OP says that:
"Daughter Maren Marie Neswold (1854 – 1937) eventually moved to Kristiansand, Norway."
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 23:13:29
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A Lars was born June 13, 1802 in Trondheim to Ole Simonsen and Malene Olsdatter.
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Ole and Malene in the 1801 Census. He is listed as a soldier
1801
An Ole Simonsen Dahl had a child in 1809 named Kirsten with Maren Lucia Jonsd. Hammer hans Forlovede in Bratsberg, Strinda
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Unfortunately for this attempted connection he is listed as unmarried when he does marry Maren in 1809. He is listed as Ole Sivertsen in the record.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 00:13:49
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But the marriage record for Anders Holm from Kristiansand does have as a witness Henrich Holm
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 03:06:06
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# 57 Anna Bernharda
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0137: Parish register (copy) no. 602C05, 1846-1856, p. 127
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924610460
#96 Maren Marie
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0138: Parish register (copy) no. 602C06, 1853-1858, p. 37
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924620038
One of her faddernes is pige Nicoline Christine Dahl
Maren Marie Næsvold death:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000000429404
#212 Jakob Magnus
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0138: Parish register (copy) no. 602C06, 1853-1858, p. 137
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924620138
#189 Johannes
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000308287
#97 Nicoline Susanne b 1864
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000311387
Faddernes of interest: wife Ingerb. Anne Qvam, Nic. Jensen, Theodor Jensen
#215 Olga b 1866 (twin to #184)
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000316332
faddernes of interest: Theodor Jensen and wife Nicoline Christine
#184 Ida Marie b 1866 died at 5 minutes baptised at home by midwife C Shau
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000316084 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 03:14:58
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In several of the records for Lars Olsen Dahl one of the witnesses is a Ane Dahl. This might be her with her sister Olava Dahl in the 1865 Census for Trondheim.
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And her baptism
Ane Karine Olesdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ane Karine Olesdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1805
Baptism Date: 27 okt 1805 (27 Oct 1805)
Baptism Place: Nidaros, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Ole Halvorsen Dahl
Mother: Ane Birgithe Dahl
FHL Film Number: 126822
Reference ID: 1770-1819 b6
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And her sister
Martha Olava Olesdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Martha Olava Olesdatter
[Martha Olava Dahl]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 27 feb 1803
Baptism Place: Nidaros domkirke, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Ole Dahl
Mother: Anne Birgithe Dahl
FHL Film Number: 126822
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 04:39:19
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A possible Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter b about 1799 living in Bakklandet in 1801:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058434009650
Bottom 1/3 of right hand page 17 Aug baptism:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0181: Parish register (official) no. 604A02, 1798-1817, p. 26-27
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918650015
Confirmation Ingebor Anna Koen (has been spelled several different ways, not sure how it becomes Holm?) right hand page # 5 4 June 1815:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0181: Parish register (official) no. 604A02, 1798-1817, p. 194-195
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918650100
SIBLINGS OF INGEBOR ANNA ANDERSDATTER
Name Johan Henrik Koen
Birth Date 1811
Age 28
Spouse's Name Hanna Oline Ulstad
Spouse's Birth Date 1812
Spouse's Age 27
Event Date 11 Oct 1839
Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Koen
Spouse's Father's Name Torsten Ulstad
Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW3Z-W3G : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Johan Henrik Koen and Hanna Oline Ulstad, 11 Oct 1839; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Jeppe Jessen Koen
Birth Date 1807
Age 27
Spouse's Name Elen Regina Ulstad
Spouse's Birth Date 1802
Spouse's Age 32
Event Date 16 Oct 1834
Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Koen
Spouse's Father's Name Torsten Ulstad
Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-8H8 : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Jeppe Jessen Koen and Elen Regina Ulstad, 16 Oct 1834; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Jeppe Jessen Andersen
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Aug 1808
Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Lars: Koen
Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter
Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RK-MB4 : 10 February 2018), Anders Lars: Koen in entry for Jeppe Jessen Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Johan Henrik Koen
Birth Date 1812
Age 36
Spouse's Name Christine Andrea Stabell
Spouse's Birth Date 1818
Spouse's Age 30
Event Date 16 Jan 1848
Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Koen
Spouse's Father's Name Bastian Stabell
Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-JWZ : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Johan Henrik Koen and Christine Andrea Stabell, 16 Jan 1848; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Johan Henrich Siverts Andersen
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 Dec 1811
Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Larssen Koen
Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter
Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RK-MMS : 10 February 2018), Anders Larssen Koen in entry for Johan Henrich Siverts Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Ole Andreas Johnsen
Birth Date 1810
Age 34
Spouse's Name Elen Frederikke Koen
Spouse's Birth Date 1804
Spouse's Age 40
Event Date 30 Jun 1844
Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Father's Name John Herjuan
Spouse's Father's Name Anders Koen
Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-FBS : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Ole Andreas Johnsen and Elen Frederikke Koen, 30 Jun 1844; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Lorentz Andreas Andersen
Gender Male
Christening Date 28 Jan 1798
Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Larssen Koen
Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter
Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-VYR : 10 February 2018), Anders Larssen Koen in entry for Lorentz Andreas Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Johan Petter Andersen
Gender Male
Christening Date 15 May 1806
Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Larss: Koen
Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter
Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-GLT : 10 February 2018), Anders Larss: Koen in entry for Johan Petter Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Martha Hanna Andersdatter
Gender Female
Christening Date 24 Feb 1793
Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father's Name Anders Larsen Koas
Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter
Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-631 : 10 February 2018), Martha Hanna Andersdatter, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
An obituary published on Anders Koen mentions that he died today 27 Feb 1842 in Troen paa sin Frelser aged 75 years. Anders and Ingeborg Koen born Berg have been married 50 years and 2 months and that they had 10 children and 4 of these allerede forlengst ere henvandrede.
1 March 1842 page 2 col 1 of Throndhjems borgerlig etc etc
An obituary published on Ingeborg Koen born Berg mentions she died on 5 Sept 1848 aged 83 years. It is signed by her children without including any names. Same paper as above dated 7 Sept 1848 page 2, col 2.
An obituary published by Ingeborg Anna Berg born Koen tells that her 18 year old son Pauls died on the sea 28 s.m. (February?) written from Dragøen in Namdalen 10 March 1846; same paper dated 26 Mar 1846 page 1 col 1.
So this might be the end of the Ingeborg Anna Koen if she is married to a Berg.
Here she is in 1875 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/rural-residence/bf01052402001333
Unfortunately means this is not your Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter. I'm leaving this all for now but will line out later.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 04:50:05
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Strinda does pop a lot
Ingebor Anna Andersdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ingebor Anna Andersdatter
[Ingebor Anna Larsen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 17 aug 1800
Baptism Place: Strinda , Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Anders Larsen
Mother: Ingebor Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 126777
Reference ID: 1758-1819
Back a bit you found a marriage for Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter married a Lars Baarsen in 1821 in Strinda?. Maybe a mistake in his last name? Her age was 23 so close. |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2019 05:13:02 |
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Who were Maren Marie Dahl's (1828 - 1915) parents
