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Myhrecharlie
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AntonH
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 Posted - 04/08/2019 : 02:58:13
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It would be easier if you had a parish or farm to connect him. to. In Ancesry.com for Hedmark born 1774 plus minus 2 father named Jĝrgen there is only one candidate. Here is a first guess. Being a soldier it is possible that he was born just about anywhere.
Anders Jorgensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Jorgensen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 sep 1774
Baptism Place: , Nes, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Jorgen Olsen
Mother: Elie Jorgensdr
FHL Film Number: 124296
Third record in the far right hand column.
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 03:41:34
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Thanks Anton you are probably correct, I have no info on a farm or parish.
Do you know of a way to check Norwegian Military records i haven't had
any luck trying. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 10:48:40
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ToreL
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 13:09:46
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| One thing to look for, is the first names of Michel's sisters. Usually the oldest daughter was named after the father's mother and the next after the mother's mother, but there are exceptions, for instance when the couple lived on the mother's farm, in which case the order may be reversed. I find one sister, Helvig, clearly named after Berte's mother. If you know the name of any other sister, it could be the name of Anders' mother. |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 13:14:18
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Groom Anders Jĝrgensen, Soldier and Button-moulder
Thanks can you make out his occupation on the 1801 Census.
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 13:21:59
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Originally posted by ToreL
One thing to look for, is the first names of Michel's sisters. Usually the oldest daughter was named after the father's mother and the next after the mother's mother, but there are exceptions, for instance when the couple lived on the mother's farm, in which case the order may be reversed. I find one sister, Helvig, clearly named after Berte's mother. If you know the name of any other sister, it could be the name of Anders' mother.
It appears they only had one daughter Helvig same as Berte's mother
First born was a son Jens, Berte's mother was Helvig Jensdatter |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 13:58:46
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Children of Anders Jorgensen and Berte Andersdatter
Jens 1806
Anders 1808
Michel 1811
Helvig 1813
Bore 1815
It appears Berte passed away after Birth of Bore |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 17:20:04
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Groom Anders Jĝrgensen, Soldier and Button-moulder
Thanks can you make out his occupation on the 1801 Census.
Occ. Bonde-Farmer |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 18:29:05
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Originally posted by Kċarto
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Groom Anders Jĝrgensen, Soldier and Button-moulder
Thanks can you make out his occupation on the 1801 Census.
Occ. Bonde-Farmer
Thank You Kċarto
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Kċarto
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 19:05:12
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
Thanks Anton you are probably correct, I have no info on a farm or parish.
Do you know of a way to check Norwegian Military records i haven't had
any luck trying.
It was a war between Denmark/Norwy and Sweden from March 1808-Dec. 1809.
Anders Jĝrgensen was a soldier when he married Nov. 1808.
Perhaps he partisipated in the 1808-09 war against Sweden |
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ToreL
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 21:21:19
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
Children of Anders Jorgensen and Berte Andersdatter
Jens 1806
Anders 1808
Michel 1811
Helvig 1813
Bore 1815
It appears Berte passed away after Birth of Bore
At the baptisms of each of these children there were one or more witnesses from the farm Grinager, so there could be family connection that way.
In particular, Knudt Jĝrgensen Grinager Eier is listed first among the withnesses in the first two of these baptisms. Could this be a brother? According to the 1801 census, he was born around 1760. See this search for Knudt Jĝrgensen living in Grinager in Hedmark between 1790 and 1816. And here is the search for Anders Jĝrgensen with otherwise the same parameters. |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 21:49:27
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Thanks ToreL I have seen the connection to the Grinager farm before
but usually on the other side of the family, many of the names are the
same. One thing I just picked up from reading the 1801 census again
was # 13 Elie Hansdatter Konens moder ( wife's mother ). who was
Berte's grandmother, didn't have her in tree before.
Thanks for the help.
There seems to be a very likely connection between Knudt and Anders. |
Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 04/08/2019 22:17:52 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 22:32:55
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
One thing I just picked up from reading the 1801 census again
was # 13 Elie Hansdatter Konens moder ( wife's mother ). who was
Berte's grandmother, didn't have her in tree before.
According to Furnes bygdebok (Norwegian IPs only) Helvig Jensdatter was baptised Feb. 18 1759 and died Dec. 27 1832, which should make this her baptism entry. (Sexagesima on the right.) |
Edited by - ToreL on 04/08/2019 22:33:58 |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 22:34:42
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Thanks can you make out his occupation on the 1801 Census.
Anders Jorgensen # 12 in link originally posted above by Myhrecharlie -
Occupation -- National soldat og jytler
Family position -- Boer til leje
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/08/2019 : 22:46:46
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Originally posted by ToreL
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Originally posted by Myhrecharlie
One thing I just picked up from reading the 1801 census again
was # 13 Elie Hansdatter Konens moder ( wife's mother ). who was
Berte's grandmother, didn't have her in tree before.
According to Furnes bygdebok (Norwegian IPs only) Helvig Jensdatter was baptised Feb. 18 1759 and died Dec. 27 1832, which should make this her baptism entry. (Sexagesima on the right.)
Thanks ToreL
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Anders Jorgensen in 1801 Census Lille Gaalaas
