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PetterNordklev
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 Posted - 22/01/2026 : 13:21:16
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Hi!
I have two questions.
1. There is a comment regarding an infant; Torbjørn Olsen. Son of Ole Torbjørnsen Omnes. Probably on board. Yes.
The family registration (original doc.) states one infant, yes? In addttion to one child. Can we assume that this reflect who actually borded the ship in Larvik.
Was it normal not to register name of infants?
If he died on the voyage, any way to find out?
2. Regarding payment. How - and when - was this actually done? A receipt is included in the documents. Both Speciedaler and Dollars are mentioned. Confusing to me.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 14:50:18
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United States required filing of a passenger list at the 1st port of call in U.S. Sometimes deaths aboard are recorded on the passenger list filed.
If you are searching for a name for the infant, you may want to try the Utflyttede records from Hjartdal or possibly from Larvik, or the baptismal records from Hjartdal and Larvik parishes.
It would seem that payment for the voyage was made in advance. Sometimes, a "local" person is involved in organizing people to go on a voyage and they were responsible for the collection of the payment.
But there are others here who are more familiar with procedures than I. |
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PetterNordklev
New on board
Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 19:04:41
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Thanks!
He is not in Utflyttede from Hjardal og Heddal. Father, mother and older sister in Hjartdal church book. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 20:50:23
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Since the voyage is prior to 1850 have you looked for the family in the Gerhard Naeseth series The Norwegian Immigrants to the United States: A Biographical Directory 1825-1850 for information about the family?
Personally, I have run into a family who reported a death at their local church which they hadn't memorialized from 6 years before. What do you know about the family in US? |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 22:01:46
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According to Naeseth, the persons in question were Ole Torbjørnsen Omnæs (age 28), Thone Gregersdatter Hougen (age 30), Thorbjørn Olsen (born in Heddal on February 28, 1847), and Gunhild Olsdatter (born in Hjartdal on October 5, 1842). They also had a child born in Sept. 1849 named Carl Joseph. (And several other children after arriving in America)
The transcribed list here at Norway Heritage was found in the Fritzøe Verk archives at the State Archives in Kongsberg. I do not know whether it is identical to the one filed in New York upon arrival, as it may have been created for a different purpose and filed in Norway prior to departure. The New York list may therefore look different. However, the New York lists are sometimes very detailed, including names and ages, while other lists are more cursory. The purpose of these lists was for customs officials in New York to calculate the head tax; in practice, they were not always concerned with names, but rather with the total number of passengers. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 22:24:40
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Here are the transcriptions of the other passengers.
Tora Thornbyernsen
New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Share Show more
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Name Tora Thornbyernsen
[Tora Thorbjornsen]
[Tora Thorbjornsen]
Gender Female
Age 30
Birth Date abt 1818
Departure Port Larvik, Norway
Arrival Date 14 Aug 1848
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Lolland
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 22:27:19
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Tobgern Thornbyernsen
New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Tobgern Thornbyernsen
[Thorbjorn Thorbjornsen]
[Thorbjorn Olson Lia]
[Thorbjorn Thorbjornsen]
[Thorbjorn Olson Lia]
Gender Male
Age 1
Birth Date abt 1847
Departure Port Larvik, Norway
Arrival Date 14 Aug 1848
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Lolland
Gunil Thornbyernsen
New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Gunil Thornbyernsen
[Gunil Thorbjornsen]
[Gunil Thorbjornsen]
Gender Female
Age 6
Birth Date abt 1842
Departure Port Larvik, Norway
Arrival Date 14 Aug 1848
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Lolland
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9616 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2026 : 22:41:12
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Here is a tree from Geneanet. Neither of the two children born in Norway are mentioned.
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/01/2026 22:46:51 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 23:13:24
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This is likely the family in the 1850 Census. It does show the daughter born in Norway now known as Cornelia.
Ole Tharbinson
1850 United States Federal Census
Gender Male
Race White
Residence Age 30
Birth Date abt 1820
[abt 1820]
Birthplace Norway
Residence Date 1850
Home in 1850 Winneconne, Winnebago, Wisconsin, USA
Occupation Farmer
Industry Agriculture
Real Estate 500
Cannot Read, Write Yes
Line Number 31
Dwelling Number 1835
Family Number 1862
Inferred Spouse
Trana Tharbinson
Inferred Child
Cornelia Tharbinson
Joseph Tharbinson
Household Members (Name) Age
Ole Tharbinson 30
Trana Tharbinson
35
Cornelia Tharbinson
5
Joseph Tharbinson
1
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8054/records/12289515
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2026 : 23:18:06
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And the family in 1860 Census.
Ole Torbianson
1860 United States Federal Census
Name Ole Torbianson
Age 40
Birth Year abt 1820
[abt 1820]
Gender Male
Race White
Birth Place Norway
Home in 1860 Winchester, Winnebago, Wisconsin
Post Office Winchester
Dwelling Number 1501
Family Number 1393
Occupation Farmer
Real Estate Value 2000
Personal Estate Value 400
Household Members (Name) Age
Ole Torbianson 40
Tona Tobianson
40
Joseph Tobianson
10
Torbian Tobianson
9
Matthias Tobianson
7
Turner Tobianson
Weyon Tobianson
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7667/records/36491626
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PetterNordklev
New on board
Norway
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Posted - 23/01/2026 : 08:45:46
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Thank you for all replies! (above). I am mostly curious about the fate of Torbjørn Olsen Omnes (b. 1847). Gunild b. in 1845 (not 1842). She became 'Corneila' over there? Note - this is not my "family", however I have been in contact with a descendant of Ole Torbjørnsen Omnes, b. 1820.
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PetterNordklev
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Passenger list from the "Lolland", 1848. To N.Y.
