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MaggieFiery
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Posted - 10/03/2026 :  22:28:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to my family records my fourth great grandfather was Captain Mathiesen of the Bark Zephyr. I am looking for additional information about him and his family.

ToreL
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Posted - 24/03/2026 :  11:12:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That would be John Mathiesen, but to connect names of ship captains to personal biographical data in this period is not always straightforward. Do you also know the name of your third great grandfather or grandmother who was his child?

Specifically, I wonder if you recognize any names connected to the Geni profile of this possible candidate.

Edited by - ToreL on 24/03/2026 11:36:58
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MaggieFiery
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  04:42:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for your reply. I looked at the Geni Profile of John Mathieson and did not see any names that matched my family records. My third great grandfather, Mathias Hans, was the son of Captain Hans Mathias and Karen Knudsen. Mathias Hans was born in Porsgrund Norway in 1803. Mathias Hans married Inger Marie Larson in New York City on 30 November 1853. Inger Marie Larsen is listed as passenger on the Bark Zephyr arriving in New York on 7 June 1853.
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ToreL
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  10:36:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Captain J. Mathiesen sailed the bark Zephyr to America in 1853 and 1854. According to this thread, his full first name was John. Neither the initial J nor the full name John matches any of the names you list. What is the source that connects your family to the the captain on the bark Zephyr?

Is the wedding record from 1853 available online?

Edited by - ToreL on 29/03/2026 15:25:21
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ToreL
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  11:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if the pair Captain Hans Mathias and Karen Knudsen could be this couple in the Norwegian 1801 census: Hans Matthiæsøn Smith and wife Karen Knudsdatter, living in Gjerpen parish in the Skien/Porsgrund area. His occupation is given as skipper, i.e. ship's captain, and he had a son Mathias baptised in 1803: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000012446367

The mother is not mentioned in the record, which was not unusual at the time, and even if the father is just Hans Matthiæsøn in the transcribed version, you find "Smith" as well if you click on the link to the original record. (Serial no. 128.)

Hans Matthiæsøn Smith died already in 1807: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000001986982


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ToreL
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  12:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a Geni profile for Hans Matthiæsøn Smith, but not all his children are listed.
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ToreL
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  12:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Confirmation of Mathias Hansen Smith in 1819. No. 5

Shoemaker Mathias Hansen Smith moved from Gjerpen to Oslo in 1826: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/285/pi00000000146331

Then, Mathias Hansen Smith became a master shoemaker in 1830, according to a list published in an Oslo newspaper in January 1831.

Shoemaker Smith advertised regularly in an Olso newspaper in the 1840ies, but in april of 1847 he announced an auction at his home, and after that the advertisements stopped.

In 1849, one Mathias Hansen Smith with age just slightly off appears on a passenger list at this site: https://www.norwayheritage.com/udvandret.asp?type=passengerlist&ps=377

Edited by - ToreL on 29/03/2026 16:24:46
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  18:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some records from Ancestry.com that might help in this topic.

Inger Marie Larsen
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Inger Marie Larsen
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Norwegian
Age 28
Birth Date abt 1825
Place of Origin Norway
Departure Port Christiania, Norway
Destination USA
Arrival Date 7 Jun 1853
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Zephyr

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7488/records/601902?tid=&pid=&queryId=1aea135a-23fc-4cf6-9f10-55daeca576e5&_phsrc=rhz7&_phstart=successSource

https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/4c7Screenshot20260329at.png


Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2026 18:24:36
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  18:36:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is only one Tree on Ancestry.com linked to this Inger Marie.

Inger Marie Larsen
BIRTH ABT 1825 • Frydenburg, Norway
DEATH 16 MAY 1895 • Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA

Married to

Mathias Hans Smith
BIRTH 19 NOV 1803 • Porsgund, Norway
DEATH 23 APR 1882 • Bath, Steuben, New York, USA

No parents are listed to either of these two.

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/206415278/person/302703025219/facts


Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2026 19:44:39
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  18:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans Matthiaeson Smith
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name Hans Matthiaeson Smith
Gender Male
Marriage Date 26. mai 1796 (26 May 1796)
Marriage Place Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway
Spouse
Karen Knudsdatter
FHL Film Number 126929
Reference ID Bk3 p237 8

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60095/records/3263413?tid=&pid=&queryId=52a0aa7d-26e1-4f79-aedb-c88addbed0f3&_phsrc=rhz15&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  19:01:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the baptism of Mathias Hans. Look on the right hand page near the bottom. Date is 19 Nov

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061206040673


Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2026 19:15:05
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  19:26:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is likely his arrival into New York in 1849. Shiip is the Rupert

Mathias Hansen Smith
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Mathias Hansen Smith
Gender Male
Age 49
Birth Date abt 1800
Departure Port Skien, Norway
Arrival Date 2 Jul 1849
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Rupert

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7488/records/1023554485?tid=&pid=&queryId=ba77ca62-32d7-45a4-b74f-276330d64cd6&_phsrc=JCa11&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  19:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a fairly useful tree from WikiTree for Hans Jørgen (Mathiassen) Smith (1765 - 1807)

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mathiassen-159

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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  19:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is probably the New York marriage record for 1853. The bride is named Marie Frydenier here.

Mathias H Smith
in the New York, New York, U.S., Vital Records, Births 1847-1897, Marriages 1847-1903, Deaths 1798-1900
Name Mathias H Smith
Gender Male
Ethnicity White
Marital Status Single
Marriage Age 50
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1803
Birth Place Norway
Residence Place Brooklyn
Marriage Date 30 Nov 1853
Marriage Place Manhattan, New York
Spouse
Marie Frydenler

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/62518/records/201740

Both bride and groom are listed from Norway in this difficult to read record.

Can not scan this page for a screen shot.

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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  20:01:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcus H Smith
in the 1850 United States Federal Census
Name Marcus H Smith
Gender Male
Race White
Residence Age 47
Birth Date abt 1803
[abt 1803]
Birthplace Norway
Residence Date 1850
Home in 1850 New York Ward 10, New York, New York, USA
Occupation Shoemaker
Industry Footwear, Except Rubber
Line Number 36
Dwelling Number 59
Family Number 95
Household Members (Name) Age
Marcus Bockman
39
Olen Bockman
41
Christina Bockman
14
Stephen Bockman
12
Mary Bockman
10
Fritzoff Bockman
8
Hansanr Bockman
3
Marcus H Smith 47
Morton
33


https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8054/records/7396842?tid=&pid=&queryId=6acdb1dc-171d-454f-9566-cf03261cef06&_phsrc=JCa20&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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Posted - 29/03/2026 :  20:07:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Various sources list this man in the 1880 Census. Birth place of Norway and occupation of shoemaker do fit. But he is a long way from Brooklyn.

Marcus Smith
Census • United States, Census, 1880

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZFT-DGT?lang=en

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