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ToreL
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  09:35:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Link to the familysearch version of the naturalization record mentioned before:
"Washington, Naturalization Records, 1850-1994", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGPL-3PMG : Tue Apr 29 16:08:15 UTC 2025), Entry for Ole Johansen, 1915.

Note the mention of Honolulu, connecting this record to the one for Ole Viktorin last above. (Ole Viktorin disappeared in Hawaii, and Ole William entered the USA from Hawaii.) So maybe not such a long shot after all.
Edited by - ToreL on 07/04/2026 10:13:12
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ToreL
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  09:38:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Ole Victorin's parents in 1885. His mother was an Andreasdatter, cf. "Andersen" in the original post.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000005366022
Edited by - ToreL on 07/04/2026 10:14:53
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  14:39:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The missing sailor's list was published in 1922. I wonder who was looking for him at that time and why.

On the naturalization record, it says his most recent foreign residence was Hamburg Germany. There is a database at Ancestry of sailors working from Germany, might be worth a look, German records tend to be detailed.

Ole Viktorin was from a large family, clues about him and his whereabouts might be found looking for the siblings. Dødfallsprotokol for his father and his mother might also tell whereabouts.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  15:05:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan August Andersen's dødsfallsprotokol # 32
Fredrikstad byfogd, AV/SAO-A-10473a/H/Ha/Hab/L0005: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1905-1914, s. 65b-66a
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20090520330574

Survived by wife and Children are not named but there are 12 children and 9 of these are under 18 years.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  15:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole William Johansen's FAG is marked with a V for Veteran. What's known about his service?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/221566651/ole_william-johansen
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  18:31:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found several records for Ole Johnasen on the west coast of the Americas. This is the earliest record to date.

Ole Johansen
in the Oregon, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1888-1963
Name Ole Johansen
Ethnicity/Nationality Norway
Arrival Age 19
Birth Date abt 1891
Departure Place Coronel, Chile Via San Francisco
Arrival Date 5 Jun 1910
Arrival Place Portland and Astoria, Oregon, USA
Vessel Sark

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1042/records/60571?tid=&pid=&queryId=f3f2699c-5a21-445b-b029-38396590664a&_phsrc=hkH9&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  18:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Ole born about 1896 was recorded being in Fredrikstad December of 1910 so a little difficult for him to be in the west coast of California in June of 1910.

Ole Andersen?
in the 1910 Norway CensusName Ole Andersen?
Gender Mannlig (Male)
Marital Status Ugift (Single)
Birth Date 26. feb 1896 (26 Feb 1896)
Birth Place Fredrikstad
Apartment Etasje 1 Etg Leilighetsnummer 01
Residence Place Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norge (Norway)
Relation to Head Sønn (Son)
Settled or Nomadic B
Counting District Løkke 27d
Counting District Number 0086
Enumeration District Number 002

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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  19:24:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the censuses 1900, 1910 the family uses the father's patronym of Andersen. In the 1920 census the children are using Johansen, mother is Andreasen. I suspect the change may have occurred when the father died in 1912, Ole Viktorin was under 18 at the time. Sailor life can start earlier than 18 and usually does, but perhaps the father's demise fed into that as well?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  20:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the naturalization record, Ole says he arrived on or about 14 April 1914 on board the Sierra from Honolulu at San Francisco.

There is a steamer named Sierra recorded in the newspaper San Francisco ChronicleSat, Apr 11, 1914 ·Page 15 as arriving 10 April 1914, having travelled from Honolulu 5 days, 13 hours and 42 minutes, Captain Houdlette includes passengers and merchandise for J.D. Spreckels & Bros. Co.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  20:10:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there anyone with a birthdate of 22 Jan 1892 at Fredrikstad?

Appears to be only one:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036408003180

Here is his marriage record #16 from 1919
https://goto.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051108010389

His father is named Johan Magn. Paulsen Grøndal and his father's occupation is boat builder.

Paul Grøndal is still in Norway in 1923 for birth of his son Paul, so cannot have changed name, nor moved to New Zealand.
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/04/2026 20:26:57
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  22:06:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
males born 01-22 1892 in Vestfold, Østfold, Oslo with first name some version of Ole.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000009617504

Olaf Sigurd

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000014273155

Traveled to Minneapolis in 1909

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000017561611

Olaf Mariniua

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000017561611
Edited by - AntonH on 07/04/2026 22:13:00
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/04/2026 :  23:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hedda Karlson's household in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037130005981

Hedda's death #46
https://goto.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051017010309

The dødsfallsprotokol for 1934 are open but no deaths after 30 Oct are included.

The son Olav Jensen or Johanneson, the one born 22 Jan 1892 is not mentioned as a surviving child in Hedda's obit:
https://www.nb.no/items/7aa6ff6edc72be00acae4556e4920f23?page=1&searchText=%22hedda%20karlsen%22
Edited by - jkmarler on 08/04/2026 00:00:59
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/04/2026 :  08:12:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Olaf Sigurd b 22 Jan 1892 above is noted on his baptism as having died:
"Remarks:
Død 3.3, kun hjemmedøbt."
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/04/2026 :  08:31:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another set of those possibles are these named Ole Vil* born 1892, numbers 40 of them (306 if born 1890-1899):
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&firstname=ole+vil*&lastname=&birth_year_from=1892&birth_year_to=1892&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=

This (the larger of 306) search does pick up those which start Wil also including Villy, Willy etc.

Same as the above except the name is "Olaf Vil*":
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&firstname=olaf+vil*&lastname=&birth_year_from=1892&birth_year_to=1892&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel

There are a number on this 2nd list who have birthdate one or two days off of 22 Jan 1892.
Edited by - jkmarler on 08/04/2026 08:55:48
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ToreL
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Posted - 08/04/2026 :  10:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still think Ole Viktorin looks promising. Would there be reasons for him to cheat on his age at arrival in America? (Age limits for citizenship applications? Better pay as a sailor?)
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