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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 15/07/2010 :  21:58:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you start to look into Hjartdalssoga Heidi.

Ole Aadnesen Stensrud´s (Steenersrud-Steinsrud) father was Aadne Olsen.

Steenersrud 1782:
Aadne Olsen and "Brud" wife, 2 children, his old mother. "Inderste" (family member and renter) Ole Johannesen with "1 K, 3 B" 1 wife and 3 children.

Thone Olsdatter Ørvella´s parents;
Ole Pedersen and Margitte Olsdatter.

Øvrevella 1782
Ole Pedersen Øvrevelden nedre (lower) and wife, one child (Thone b. 1776) and 2 old ladies.

Looks like Grandsherad was a subparish in Hjartdal in those days, that explain the wedding in Gransherad.
The borders changed many times through the ages.

I might be gone for a few days.

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 15/07/2010 23:05:00
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heidithoe
Medium member

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 16/07/2010 :  03:04:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Hopkins, I sent a request for the Hjartdal Book. Excited to have one around for future reference.
I found my local LDS Family Research Center, so I will pay them a visit once I get organized.

Kåre, thanks for the census links. No worries on the being away. I hope it is for a fun.
I too will be gone this weekend and away from the research for a little while...

Hope you both have a great weekend!


~ H Thoe ~
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Lislcat
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USA
690 Posts

Posted - 16/07/2010 :  07:04:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Heidi!
Just wondering if you're from the Thoe family
from the Iola area? My family is from New Hope
township and I'm related to Thoe's thru marriage.
My family is also from Hjartdal. I have three of
the four bygdeboks from there, so if you would
like me to send you pages, just click on my name
to send me an e-mail. The Tuddal and Hjartdal area
is beautiful! It must have been very hard for our families
to leave that area.

Lislcat
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Viola Aasen
New on board

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2010 :  16:34:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heidi, You are on the trail, John Olson and Thone Oldsdatter are my husband, Everetts' .grandparents. Their son John Aasen married Ragnild Torstenson, they had11 children, nine born in Norway and 2 of them here. Everetts' dad was Norman and he was married to Othelia Thoe. Norman sister Annie Aasen was married to Anton Thoe,and they are granpa Thoe's parents. Your grandma Thoe is Karlkas(SP>. The Thoe name went under Jore in Gransherad Book that I borrowed thru th e Library of Congress. The only way our library could get it. and I had go there and read it. But our house burnt down in 2007, and lost everything. So back up everything!! Hope this helps.
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Marlys Nelson
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 26/07/2010 :  17:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been reading these posts with interest since these families connect with the people from Hem in Sauherad previous discussed by Heidi and Kåarto among others. Let me know if you want the connecting links between Tone Olsdatter and Hem slekt.

Marlys
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 26/07/2010 :  23:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
It would be intersting to see the connection between Thone Olsdatter and the Hem family in Sauherad.

I have information about the Hem families from ab.1800 and earlier, both Nord-Hem (Northern-Hem) and Sud-Hem (Southern-Hem).

Kåre
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Marlys Nelson
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  02:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the Saubø connections I have made:

Thone's father was Ole Ånesson b. 1761 on Steinsrud, Gransherad.
m. Tone Olsd. Ørvella. The couple lived on Saubø, Tuddal.
His father was Åne/Adne Olesson b 1727 Steinsrud, Gransherad
m. Anne Johannesd. Øverland
His father was Ola Ådnesson b. 1703 Steinsrud, Gransherad
m. Anne Olsd. from Heddal
His father was Ådne Olesson Steinsrud, Gransherad who was married to Åste Torbjørnsd. Bøen b. c. 1679, whose father was Torbjørn Olesson Bøen b.c. 1640, son of Ole Taraldsson Bøen b.c. 1610, son of Tarald Olesson Hem i Saueherad.

However I have been unable to find Åste's husband Ådne Olesson's father although there are connections between Tarald Hem (Åste's grandfather) and an Ådne who owned a portion of ØvreSud Gøystdal in the neighboring parish of Tinn. In 1620 Vral (Rolf) on Ulleren had a son, Ådne who later owned some of Eggerud and Gvammen in Tinn. That Ådne had a daughter Ambjorg, married to Ola Olesson and lived on Sud Eggerud. The couple sold that property in 1696. "My" mysterious Ådne was born about 1660-1670 so he would have been a good candidate as a son of Ole and Ambjorg, named after his grandfather Ådne. "My" Ådne's first daughter was Imbjorg, which can be an alternate spelling for Ambjorg. The couple followed traditional naming practices with their first four chldren, using the four names of their (possible) grandparents.....but that is all the closer I have come to some connections for Ådne Olesson Steinsrud's ancestry! Tenuous.
(I have previously read and absorbed the information you have posted regarding the families on Hem....thank you so much for sharing.)
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Oyvlars
Junior member

Norway
52 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  13:23:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Reiersen, Haugen
marr. 25-06-1813 Moen u/Sem
+Gunhild Jonsd.

John Olsen Aasen, Sem N b. 07-10-1815 (15-10)
mar. 13-06-1842 Gård Gr. 36-8- Sem Nordre
+Thone Olsdatter b. 1818 Dead 21-12-1861 41 y.
(Ole Aadnesen, Saubøe - Aadne Olsen)

1. Gunne Johnsdatter Aasen 18-06-1842 Emigr. Oslo - Madison apr.1869, "Albion
2. Ole Johnsen Aasen 26-10-1844
3. John Johnsen Aasen 14-02-1847 Emigr. 1868 mai.
4. Thone Johnsd.Aasen 13-03-1852 Emigr. Oslo - Madison apr.1869, "Albion
5. Johannes Johnsen Aasen 10-04-1855Emigr. Oslo - Madison apr.1869, "Albion
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  13:56:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Ole Reiersen, Haugen
marr. 25-06-1813 Moen u/Sem
+Gunhild Jonsd.

John Olsen Aasen, Sem N b. 07-10-1815 (15-10)
mar. 13-06-1842 Gård Gr. 36-8- Sem Nordre
+Thone Olsdatter b. 1818 Dead 21-12-1861 41 y.
(Ole Aadnesen, Saubøe - Aadne Olsen)

- Øyvind, no news, see posting 11/07/2010 : 23:36:49!

Einar
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Oyvlars
Junior member

Norway
52 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  16:31:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reier Olsen Tveten
Margit Olsd

Ole Reiersen, Haugen bap. 22-10-1786
marr. 25-06-1813 Moen u/Sem
+Gunhild Jonsd.
1. John Olsen b. 07-10-1815
2. Gunnild Olsd. b. 01-01-1818
3. Rejer Olsen b. 10-10-1820
4. Kari Olsd. b. 30-03-1826
5. Anne Olsd. b. 23-12-1829
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  17:31:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This line was interesting to read Marlys, does this information come from Hjartdalsoga, Tuddal?
It takes Thone Olsdatter ancestors back to the mid.1300, to Nord-Hem and Lindheim in Sauherad.

A summary on Tarald Hem since you have read my long former posting about the Hem family. Still much information to share but I had to put a dot somewhere;

Tarald Olsen Hem ab. 1575-1671 married as a widower Gunnild Olsdatter probably from Tinn.
He was very rich, owned in 1610 a part in Sud-Hem and a part in Busnes in Gransherad /Tinn (west side of lake Tinnsjø).
Within 1618 he exercised more land in Sud-Hem and from 1648 he owned most of Sud-Hem.
Farm Gausdal in Tinn he inherit from his 1. wife, his son Ole Taraldsen Bøen was from this marriage.
Tarald lent amount of money to others and owned mortgages in farms as Haugholt and Gjestrud in Heddal parish, Bjørge in Seljord parish.
From 1641 he owned a part in Grorud in Siljan parish, he was partowner in Hesthaug, Flåterud, Dale and Bolåker in Sauherad.
Tarald owned mortgage in Årnes which his son Thorbjørn cultivated about 1654.
Heir to Årnes, Torstein Nordadal, wanted to redeem Årnes, it took him many years in court before Tarald and Thorbjørn left the farm.

Tarald Hem was several times taken to court and was judged to pay fines for both the one an other.
Probate after Tarald Hem was held on Jan. 10. 1672.
His son Thorbjørn d. before 1867 married Barbara Gudbrandsdatter from Gunheim in Sauherad, they lived on Årånes in Sauherad from ab. 1640 - 1655 when they settled down on Busnes in Gransherad.
His brother Ole Taraldsen married to Aslaug Bjørnsdatter Bøen takes over Sud-Hem.

I hope this is understandable, many tricky words to translate.

Kåre



Edited by - Kåarto on 27/07/2010 23:27:10
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Oyvlars
Junior member

Norway
52 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  18:32:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To EINAR

Hevreka Do not touch my circles
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Oyvlars
Junior member

Norway
52 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2010 :  22:58:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3. Rejer Olsen b. 10-10-1820 Korporal
mar. 27-12-1849
+Anne Johannesd. Mørk b. 27-03-1828 Lia
( Johannes Haraldsen + Asloug Olsd.)
Children:
1.Anloug Reiersd. b. 02-02-1853
2.Gunne Reiersd. b. 11-06-1855
3.Anne Reiersd. b. 06-06-1858
4.Johannes reiersen b. 26-05-1861
5.John Reiersen b. 28-11-1864
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 28/07/2010 :  06:12:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Øyvind, I'll not touch your "circles" again.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/07/2010 06:13:45
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Marlys Nelson
Medium member

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 28/07/2010 :  16:04:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kåre,

Thanks for the additonal info on Tarald Hem. Of course my "info" is from secondary sources...mostly the bygdeboks from Tinn, Gransherad, Tuddal and Saueherad...although I have been led to believe that the Saueherad and Gransherad books are error prone...and dates seem "off" in Tuddal book as compared with church records, as well.

I am still frustrated about ÅsteTorbjørnsd.'s husband Åne Olesson's ancestry...I don't think her family would have let her marry the local goatherd....so he must be from a family with some resources....just can't pin him down with the records at hand.

Thanks again for the information you provide to those of us with poorer language skills and resources....we are just as deeply infected with the genealogy bug, but don't produce as good results as you!
Marlys
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