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sabingd
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  18:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am looking for Hans Haakenson family information. Hans was born in Nittedahl, Norway. Son of Haakon Haakenson and Maren Evenson. Maren was born around 1814-1815. Haakon Haakenson was laid to rest in the Nittedahl Kirkes cemetery.

Hans later lived in Oslo near the Vaterlands Bro (bridge). He married Mathia Larson,(second wife). They and their family moved to the USA in 1903 arriving at Ellis Island, NY and settling at Granite Falls, Minnesota near his brother, Andreas.

Hans' other brother Martin remained in Oslo Norway, and his sister Ellen, also born in Nittedahl, remained in Norway and maried Karelius Olson. They had a large family.

I think Hans' baptism may have been at a large church in Oslo he died in 1926 in Sioux City Iowa. He was buried in Granite Falls.

I will try to get additional in formation to you in another post.

Thank you for any assistance you can give me.

Dave Sabin

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  19:31:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When was Hans Haakenson born?

Who were the other persons in his family group when he emigrated from Norway in 1903? Include their approximate birth years or ages when emigrating if possible.

I'm curious to learn where your information comes from.
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sabingd
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  19:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans was born in 1834. (He changed his name to Hawkinson in the U. S.) Hans' brother brought him and his family to the USA. He sailed with his Wife Mathia b.-1865 d.-1922. Also, his children; Jennie Marget b.-1889 d.-1918 (Flu epidemic), Ruth Hawkinson b.-1896 d.-1967, Alfred Hawkinson b.-1898 d.-1954, Leon Hawkinson b.-1903 d.-1971. Hans' older daughter, Cleo came to the U. S. at an earlier date. b.-1889 d.-19

I am also interested in going to Haakon Haakenson and Merin Larson's ancestores. I think Haakon' father was a Haaken Haakinson b.-1815 d.-1921 and Merin's father my have been Andries J. Jonsen b.-1785 d.-1848 1965.

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sabingd
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:02:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got most of my information from others working on their Hawkinson family tree. Are you in this family line?
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:11:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While hoping for additional identifying information from you --

There is this family in Oslo for the 1900 Norwegian census -
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0301&kenr=256&bnr=0002&lnr=01

That family left from Oslo in 1903 stating intended destination as Minnesota -
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=25&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=143755&sokefelt=skjul

Same family - lucky hit.

No, I'm not related at all.

Edited by - Hopkins on 01/11/2014 20:13:48
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Hopkins
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:26:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans was actually born in Skedsmo, Akershus 20 Oct 1837 - parents Haagen Evensen and Maren Haagensdtr.
See birth/baptismal record #79
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=545&idx_id=545&uid=ny&idx_side=-40

The family appears in Yellow Medicine Co. MN for the 1910 census and in Woodbury Co. IA for the 1920. Both these censuses list Hans as born 1837 in Norway.

Elen was Hans younger sister, born 1849 -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4K2-2J4

Edited by - Hopkins on 01/11/2014 20:34:35
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sabingd
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:37:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is very interesting and awesome to say the least. I find it fasinating that the last name came for Hans' maternal side. However, I noticed this on my mother's ancestry as well. You have the locations in the U. S. exactly.

Thank you so much for getting back to me.

Dave Sabin
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:41:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sabingd

I find it fasinating that the last name came for Hans' maternal side.
Dave Sabin

That's not correct. The last name for Hans is derived from his father's first name. Hans was the son of Haagen; thus he was a Haagensen...

Edited by - jwiborg on 01/11/2014 20:44:10
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  20:47:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As another says just above -- No the names are patronymic. Hans is a Haagensen or Haakensen (the minor spelling difference makes NO matter just as those different spellings in US censuses make NO matter) because his father was Haagen. Hans paternal grandfather would have been named Even (something). Maren's father would have been Haagen (something).

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns:

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

Maybe the persons working on the Hawkinson family tree didn't understand this either and that's where the confusion came from. Patronymic naming is very very logical and simple once you understand it.

Edited by - Hopkins on 01/11/2014 20:52:45
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sabingd
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USA
85 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2014 :  21:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see what you mean. I need to work harder to get the hang of this. What you are sending me just blows my mind!

Do you have any idea if there are public family trees that may come from Ellen or Martin's family tree records?

Thank you so much.
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Hopkins
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USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2014 :  21:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, this looks like Elen in the 1865 census -
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0231&kenr=003&bnr=0006&lnr=00

She is working as a servant on that Kjus søndre farm in Skedsmo.

And possibly in the 1875 census -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP91-H8W

I'm not a big collector of online family trees. Others here might be better able to check that.

I tend to turn to the primary records instead. The censuses and parish church records, probates if I can. I've never had luck with old family tree information other than for general hints -- found far too many mistakes.

Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)
Making the Norwegian alphabet characters (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/Characters.html)


Edited by - Hopkins on 01/11/2014 21:21:18
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sabingd
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  21:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you.

You have been a great help.

Dave
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  21:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You and the others working on the Hawkinson family tree might find it useful to study about using the Norwegian church records.

The Digitalarkivet website has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.

The older Digitalarkivet website - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
A newer homepage has been put up at (http://http://arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet) and the same resources are available there although the links described below may be on other positions on the page.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed on each homepage.
Clicking on "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] will bring up another screen and listing to choose from. Choose "Lesa skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Read the digitised parish records" [English version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this website -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html

For the protection of privacy, there are limits for how recent church records can be published:

- Birth and baptism records up to and including 1929
- Confirmation records up to and including 1934
- Marriage and banns records - no limits
- Civil marriage up to and including 1950
- Death, burial and stillbirth records up to and including 1930
- Migration records - no limits
- Joins and leavings of the State Church up to and including 1950
- Records about dissenters up to and including 1950

If you cross these limits while browsing a register or a list, you will not see the digitised image, but a message informing you that the image cannot be displayed.

Not all church records up to those limits will necessarily be available in the online digitized collection or in the microfilm collection of the LDS Family History Library. Those MIGHT be available at the appropriate archives of the Norwegian Lutheran Church iin Norway.

When you've studied and used the instructions and been able to find a scanned page on the Digitalarkivet that you'd like to capture as a URL to share with someone else or save for your family history documentation - just copying the URL that your browser shows will NOT provide a working link for longer than about 1/2 an hour -- it only works very temporarily.

Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Øverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.

The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.

The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to save the exact URL location or share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.

The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this website -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  21:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The brothers in the 1865 census?
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0301&kenr=1713&bnr=1638&lnr=000
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  22:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#19 Hans Haagensen & Marthea Larsen, married 15 Mar 1885
Children:
#90 Hilda Leonore Haagensen, born 02 Oct 1886 Cleo
#16 Jenny Margit Haagensen, born 19 Nov 1891 Jennie Marget
#92 Ruth Elida Haagensen, born 06 Nov 1895 Ruth
#58 Alf Severin Haagensen, born 12 Oct 1897 Alfred
Hilmar Haagensen, born about March 1903? Leon

Edited by - jwiborg on 01/11/2014 22:45:49
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 :  22:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Do you have any idea if there are public family trees that may come from Ellen or Martin's family tree records?


There is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com containing this family. It is owned by StearnsHeinrich. While it does contain some informaton on siblings Ellen, Martin and Hans, it contains far more information on the brother There are actually about five Family Trees at Ancestry. While they seem to be fairly accurate for the chldren who moved to the United States they may be less accurate on the parents, Haagen and Maren.

Andreas Haakenson (Dahl)
Birth 1 August 1834 in Strømmen, Akershus, Norway
Death 12 Nov 1916 in Granite Falls, Yellow Medicine, Minnesota, United States

Edited by - AntonH on 01/11/2014 23:27:41
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