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dylankylesimon
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  02:51:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,

First and foremost. I would like to announce, that with the help of Jackie Marler, ToreL, and Anton Hagelee, I was able to receive a picture and death certificate of the very Peter Evensen Simon, whom we were researching three years ago. Furthermore, every piece of research that was found, ended up being true and stated so on Peter's death certificate. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

Now that we have Peter E Simon born on September 23, 1849, as Petter Evensen on Hagastuen, one part of the Farm Marigaardseie in the town Norderhov, in Ringerike, in Buskerud County, Norway to Martha Helgesdatter and Even Olsen, I would like to continue researching into his and my family tree.

So far Jackie found many siblings of Peter, which include Aaase Mathea Evensdatter, Hans Evensen, Randine Evensen, Ole Evensen, Engebret Evensen, Maria Eriksdatter, and Christian Evensen.

Birthplaces, according to Jackie include:

1. Aase Mathea on Alme, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
2. Hans on Ekli, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
3. Randine on Tanberg, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
4.Ole on Tanberg, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
5. Peter on Marigaard, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
6. Engebret on Marigaard, Norderhov, Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway
7. Christian on Marigaardseie

However, while I am interested in the siblings, I would like to find out more about Peter's father Even Olsen, and mother Martha Helgesdatter.

Jackie found Even Olsen death:
SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0012: Parish register (official) no. 12, 1856-1865, p. 410
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050846

Is it 14 Nov 1860? Or am I misreading it? Can we find out more, such as the birth record of Even Olsen, Birth or Death Record of Martha? I believe estimated I was given an 1813 Birth year for Martha.

Please let me know what you can do for me!

Edited by - dylankylesimon on 14/08/2022 01:23:57

ToreL
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Norway
695 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2022 :  11:15:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a quibble: the name of the main farm was Marigaard (Marigård in modern spelling). Hagastuen (Hagastua on modern maps) was a smaller farm belonging to Marigård that was leased out to the farmer who operated it. Such farms leased out from a farm X were often refered to generically as Xeie (Literally owned by X; eie is own in Norwegian). Hence Petter Hagastuen might also be referred to as Petter Marigaardseie, but anyone living at Marigård proper would not include the "eie" in the name/address.

Edited by - ToreL on 08/08/2022 11:16:32
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  12:00:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
14 Nov 1860 looks right. 45 years old; that suggests a baptism around 1815. Here is one; son Even born to Ole Evensen and Aasa Torkelsdatter at Tranbye-eie on April 13 1815:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000039161543

A plausible candidate, as your Even's oldest daughter was named Aase.

And this looks like the same person's confirmation record in 1830, even if the age is a little off, as is his mother's name:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314630037 (No. 2)

The mother's patronymic In the original baptism record is barely readable, and could as well be Tostensdatter, as is written in the confirmation record. This is also what we find in the Geni profile: https://www.geni.com/people/Even-Olsen-Tranbyeiet/6000000000944963890?through=6000000000944963862

Edited by - ToreL on 08/08/2022 13:26:41
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  19:06:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the confirmation record and the Geni.com profile has the correct last name. Here is the marriage record that fits.

Ole Evensen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name: Ole Evensen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 okt 1804 (7 Oct 1804)
Marriage Place: Krodsherad,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse:
Aase Tostensdr
FHL Film Number: 124188

Nr. 7

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070312640061



Here in the baptism of a different child it is spelled slightly dffeetnly.

Torsten Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Torsten Olsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 okt 1808 (9 Oct 1808)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father:
Ole Evensen
Mother:
Aase Torchilsdr
FHL Film Number: 124052



Edited by - AntonH on 08/08/2022 19:58:26
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  20:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baptism of Marthe in 1814

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010477413

Marriage of Helge Hermandsen and Ragnil Svendsdatter.

Helge Hermandsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Helge Hermandsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 des 1794 (30 Dec 1794)
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse:
Ragnil Svendsdr
FHL Film Number: 124052

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1737518:60095

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660400

Edited by - AntonH on 08/08/2022 20:31:43
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  20:42:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1801 Census in Ancestry, the mother of Helge is shown as Anne Iversdatter. It also in the DA record but a little clearer here.

Helge Hermansen
in the 1801 Norway Census

Name: Helge Hermansen
Gender: Mannlig (Male)
Marital Status: Gift (Married)
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1772
Census year: 1801
City: Norderhov
County: Buskerud
County Number: 06
Counting District: Alme
Counting District Number: 0008
Enumeration District Number: 002
Relation to Head: Mand (Husband)
House Number: 03
Household Members Age Relationship
Helge Hermansen 29 Mand (Husband)
Ragnil Svendsdatter
29 Hans Hustru
Mari Helgesdatter
7
Svend Helgesen
4
Anne Iversdatter
71 Mandens moder
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  20:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Based on the 1801 Census, I would say that this is the baptism record for Helge.

Helge Hermansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Helge Hermansen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 09 Feb 1772
Baptism Place: , Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Father:
Herman Persen
Mother:
Ane Iversdr
FHL Film Number: 124051

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7432908:60092?tid=&pid=&queryId=1f42977e6cdaecb7612a14e00892076c&_phsrc=YDV1&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  21:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And probably the baptism of Ragnild in 1772.

Ragnild Svendsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ragnild Svendsen
[Ragnild Jensen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 Jun 1772
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father:
Svend Jensen
Mother:
Marte Tharalsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/16944942:60092?_phsrc=YDV4&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=rag*&ml_rpos=3&queryId=fe0085106280500fca7306610b19c4cd


Edited by - AntonH on 08/08/2022 21:36:36
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  21:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Helge Hermandsen and Ragnil Svendsdatter seem like the correct parents for "our" Marthe Helgesdatter, given their residence at Alme in 1801 and the fact that "our" Marthe Helgesdatter's first child was born at Alme-eie.
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ToreL
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  21:52:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone found Marthe Helgesdatter and Even Olsen's wedding record? With a little luck it might provide their fathers's full names and hence strengthen/weaken today's candidates.
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2022 :  22:25:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No wedding found in Ancestry.com for them. That is a little odd as they should have been married around 1837 or earlier. Aase was baptized 26 Mar 1837.

Nr. 30

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314620713

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dylankylesimon
Junior member

USA
49 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2022 :  01:11:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Peder Olsen

Wife: Kari Gundersdr

Birth 1827 Norderhov

Children:
Ole Pedersen
B: 13 Jan 1850 Buskerud, Norway

Karen Petersdatter
B: 30 Aug 1852 Buskerud, Norway
D: 5 September 1935 Green County, Wisconsin, USA

Husband:
Erick Peterson:
B: 2 Dec 1852 Buskerud, Norway
D: 14 Nov 1924 Green County, Wisconsin, USA

Gunder Pedersen
B: 3 May 1855 Buskerud, Norway

Ellef Pedersen
B: 17 Feb 1858 Buskerud, Norway
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dylankylesimon
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USA
49 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2022 :  01:15:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would also love confirming this, as there is an entire family tree on Aasa Tostensdatter

Mother:
Guri Reidulvsdatter Råen
BIRTH 1747 • Råen, Krødsherad, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 1816

Mother of Guri:
Åse Sjursdatter Råen*
BIRTH ABT. 1724 • Råen, Krødsherad, Buskerud, Norway

Father of Guri:
Reidulv Rolvsen Råenhallen
BIRTH ABT. 1720
DEATH 1757 • Krødsherad Buskerud, Norway
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AntonH
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USA
8756 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2022 :  01:28:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Let me know what you all think:


First thing that comes to my mind is. "Can you learn how to use links?"

Example

Nr. 35

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314640175

Edited by - AntonH on 09/08/2022 01:32:44
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AntonH
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USA
8756 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2022 :  01:45:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Peder Olsen

Wife: Kari Gundersdr
Birth 1827 Norderhov


Peder Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Peder Olsen
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Date: 1822
Marriage Date: 05 Nov 1849
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father:
Ole Evensen
Spouse:
Kari Gundersdr
FHL Film Number: 124058

Nr. 42

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314640117


Edited by - AntonH on 09/08/2022 01:48:00
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/08/2022 :  01:53:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1865 Census gives you a good list of the children as well as some information on the parents.

Peder Olsen
in the 1865 Norway Census
Name: Peder Olsen
Gender: Mannlig (Male)
Marital Status: Gift (Married)
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1819
Birth Place: Norderhov
Census year: 1865
City: Norderhov/Norderhov, Haug og Lunder
County: Buskerud
County Number: 06
Counting District: Nymoen
Counting District Number: 0031
Enumeration District: Tranby og Havig
Enumeration District Number: 001
Relation to Head: Hf
House Number: 01
Household Members Age Relationship
Peder Olsen 46 Hf
Kari Gundersdatter
40 Hustru (Wife)
Gunder Pedersen
11 Søn (Son)
Ellef Pedersen
8 Søn (Son)
Karen Pedersdatter
14 Datter (Daughter)
Ole Evensen
86

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038084000208
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