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johanAronsen63
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USA
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Posted - 03/09/2022 :  23:09:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I’ve had many unresolved mysteries and brick walls in certain people that form part of my Norwegian ancestry.

I’ll get right to the point; I need help finding more information about people in my tree.

PEOPLE:

• An ancestor of mine is named Aron Andersen and he was born on December 25th of 1826, in Blomskog, Sweden. He emigrated from Sweden to Norway, married a Norwegian, and died on July 16th of 1905 in Larvik, Norway. His marriage was to Maren Kristine Andersdatter on January 26th of 1862 in Brunlanes. She was born on October 16th of 1835 in Norway.
The problem is that I’d like to find more information about them, from bygdebøker and other documents, images, or stories. I’d also like to know more about how Aron became a Norwegian.

• One of their children, Johan Albrecht Aronsen, was my ancestor. He was born on July 23rd of 1865 in Brunlanes and he immigrated to New York City in the 1880s. His first son, Carl J Aronsen was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1893. But, his next son, Haakon (Harold) Aronsen, was born in Larvik, Norway on 16th of May 1895.
The problem is that I’d like to know more information about Johan’s upbringing and his immigration. And, I’d like to know about his son, my ancestor, Haakon, and why he was born in Norway, instead of New York. Was it common for Norwegian families who immigrated to go back and visit their family?

Thank you to anyone who at least stops by for some advice or some well-needed help.

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2022 :  00:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Family tree:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/G696-LJC

Haakon birth / baptism # 17
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-93PP-77RN?cc=4237104&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A683L-8N8Y

His father is listed as "fisker" which means he and the family could be mobile, moving back and forth to America. There is a note on Haakon which gives an immigration date ? or something to America of 4 June 1909. Among the faddernes are some interesting names. Re the moving back and forth, in the 1910 Norwegian census they had a question for anybody who had repatriated from another country. In the later years it was more common than earlier in the migration, when you had to accept that you were making a forever move.

Edited by - jkmarler on 04/09/2022 01:16:35
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2022 :  03:13:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gunda Marie's obit:
https://www.nb.no/items/6961223de444cdc830f62edf1093036e?page=5&searchText=%22f%20%20%C3%B8hrn%22

Caroline Bernhardine obit:
https://www.nb.no/items/b745b4a5a341cfa845620425cb189a04?page=7&searchText=%22f%20%20%C3%B8hrn%22

Edited by - jkmarler on 04/09/2022 03:18:29
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2022 :  21:24:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a clipping from Brunlanes bygdebok, for the farm Pytten/Pøtten no. 5. Not much to learn, except that Maren Kristine married Aron Andersen from Sweden. Maren Kristine's parents are also there, but you have all that already, dont you? I notice that the Sher Santiago Family Tree at MyHeritage is being updated daily with the developments at this forum, so I assume you are well connected with the owner of that tree, which already contains a lot of material on Maren Kristine's family. I think in order to help you out further, it would be better to know more specifically what information you are looking for.

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johanAronsen63
Junior member

USA
37 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  13:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, indeed I am connected to the owner of that tree (he’s a very close family member who was adopted). I’m constantly adding information to the tree as I’m a member.

Back to the point, specifically, I’d like to know the death dates of Maren Kristine Andersdatter (b. 1835), her children; Anders Frederik Aronsen (b. 1863), Henrik Otto Aronsen/Andersen (b. 1868), and Sofie Elise Aronsen/Andersen (b. 1877). Also, I’d like to know when his granddaughter, Margit Katinka Aronsen, daughter of Karl August Aronsen, (she was b. 1896) died.

Any more information about these people (like deeds, immigrations, pictures, documents) i’d be grateful for!!

Thanks

Edited by - johanAronsen63 on 05/09/2022 13:43:25
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ToreL
Advanced member

Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  14:19:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the funeral record for Maren Kristine. It says birth year 1834, but the address matches the 1891 census.
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  15:21:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Her son Anders Frederik was born on Jan 4 1863 and died on Apr 2 1864 (#22).

Edited by - ToreL on 05/09/2022 15:22:26
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  17:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henrik Otto in the 1891 census is listed with New York home:
RA, Folketelling 1891 for 0707 Larvik kjøpstad, 1891, s. 12265
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ft10061506713607
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jkmarler
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USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  17:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The family of Aron Andersen in Larvik in 1870:
RA, Folketelling 1870 for 0707 Larvik kjøpstad, 1870, s. 1294
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ft60044641001294
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  19:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Larvik Sailors' roll, patent no. 3530. Henrik Otto Aronsen used this patent from 1888/1889 to 1893. In one of the columns to the far right, it says Rømt i Pensacola. Rømt means that he abandoned the ship in breach of contract. This appears to have happended on an unspecified day in February of 1893, and the ship's name looks like Natant. True enough, according to a Norwegian Newspaper, Natant arrived in Pensacola on January 17th, 1893.

Edited by - ToreL on 05/09/2022 19:46:34
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  20:48:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sofie Elise died in 1952: https://ibb.co/LJv1hWt Her husband was named Lars Peter Mortensen, but he died in 1929 and is not the one mentioned in the clip. Rather, one of the children inherited the name: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000025809614

Edited by - ToreL on 06/09/2022 13:15:38
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2022 :  21:43:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to Hedrum bygdebok, Margit Katinka married Ivar Iversen Ringdal in 1935 and died in 1968. Clipping from the piece on Ringdal farm no. 5: Link. She died on January 23. Ivar himself died in 1980, according to a newspaper notice that year.

Edited by - ToreL on 05/09/2022 21:54:22
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2022 :  22:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl August Aronsen marriage #22:
Larvik kirkebøker, SAKO/A-352/F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. I 8, 1884-1902, s. 225
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060609040243
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johanAronsen63
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USA
37 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2022 :  13:11:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And what about Maren Kristine Andersdatter (1835-1895)’s family. I see that each of her ancestors came from various different farms in Brunlanes. Pøtten/Pytten is one of them but there are others (Holone, Vestre-Aske, Austre-Sanni, Jorde, Stokkeskog, Brunevald). I wonder about those farms and the roles of my people within them. Also, were there ever images of the farms? If so, where can I find them?
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johanAronsen63
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USA
37 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2023 :  07:34:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And what about Maren Kristine Andersdatter (1835-1895)’s family. I see that each of her ancestors came from various different farms in Brunlanes. Pøtten/Pytten is one of them but there are others (Holone, Vestre-Aske, Austre-Sanni, Jorde, Stokkeskog, Brunevald). I wonder about those farms and the roles of my people within them. Also, were there ever images of the farms? If so, where can I find them?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7758 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2023 :  15:05:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johanAronsen63

And what about Maren Kristine Andersdatter (1835-1895)’s family. I see that each of her ancestors came from various different farms in Brunlanes. Pøtten/Pytten is one of them but there are others (Holone, Vestre-Aske, Austre-Sanni, Jorde, Stokkeskog, Brunevald). I wonder about those farms and the roles of my people within them. Also, were there ever images of the farms? If so, where can I find them?



So where did you get the farm name info if you don't know the people on the farms?


#55 Maren Kirstine
Brunlanes kirkebøker, SAKO/A-342/F/Fa/L0003: Parish register (official) no. I 3, 1834-1845, p. 18-19
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060410020752


If you want to look at maps with aerial photography try norgeskart.no. Choosing eiendom will show modern boundaries of the farms that you might find.
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