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Scott Watkins
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Posted - 06/03/2023 :  15:04:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello group - wondering if anyone might know how an emigrant would get from Copenhagen to Christiania in 1869. Was there regularly scheduled service on a small steamship? Ferry service? Type (and name) of ship? Researching for a book and trying to nail down this final detail. Thanks for any and all help!

PS jkmarler I saw your reply to another question I posted: THANK YOU!!!

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Posted - 06/03/2023 :  20:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why do you think that your folks went from Copenhagen to Christiania?
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Scott Watkins
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Posted - 07/03/2023 :  00:35:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for asking that! because of their police departure record which says Copenhagen.
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Posted - 07/03/2023 :  02:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
... and because I was presuming (lack of actual evidence) that they travelled on the SS Oder (father in 1869) and SS Hero (mother and 3 sons in 1870). Also, the Hero is, according to Norway Heritage, a "feeder" ship for the Allan Line's SS Germany in June, 1870, and I know for certain the mother and 3 sons were on the Germany from Liverpool to Quebec, arriving in Quebec June 22, 1870. A lot of my research has been speculation of course, but the time-lines of the ships seems to match up very neatly.
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Posted - 07/03/2023 :  02:32:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Danish Emigration Records

Swedish Emigration Records
Name: Hans Hansen
Birth Year: abt 1836
Place of Origin: Sverrig
Destination: Omaha City, N
Record Date: 14 apr 1869
Port of Departure: Köpenhamn
Database Name: EmiHamn
Occupation/Title: Landmand
Archive Call Number: 1948
Principal Person: Hansen Hans

Canada Incoming Passenger List

Name: Hans Hansen
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1836
Arrival Date: Apr 1869
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Nova Scotian

Not exactly sure how you tie in Norway here, since it appears to me that he went from Sweden, to Denmark, to Canada?

Your real question would be: What does "Indirekte" stand for here? The answer is: Indirekte billetter er udstedt af en dansk rejseagent, men gælder afsejling fra en ikke-dansk afsejlingshavn (oftest tysk eller engelsk) - i disse tilfælde er skibsnavnet ikke oplyst.

Indirect tickets are issued by a Danish travel agent, but apply to departures from a non-Danish departure port (most often German or English) - in these cases the ship name is not stated.

Is there a chance that Hans Hansen came on the Bark Moss?

Hans Hansen (b. 1836) came aboard the Bark Moss (Bark Moss, Capt. Hansen from Christiania Apr. 24 to Quebec June 23)

4th from Top Left.

Name: Hans Hansen
Arrival Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1836
Arrival Date: Jun 1869
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Moss

The "Excellencen Toll" was a steamship sailing in a route between Christiania, Gothenburg and Copenhagen, calling at several smaller ports on the way. In 1863 she was mastered by Capt. O. Mattsson. She departed from Christiania for Gothenburg and Copenhagen every Tuesday at 7 o'clock am, calling at Drøbak; Horten, Moss, Vallø and Fredriksværn both ways. It arrived to Christiania every Sunday at 8 pm. Passengers were enrolled and gods expedited every Monday from 4 - 6 pm. at T. C. Kloed. It corresponded with the steamships "Moss" and "Foldin" at Fredriksværn. The above advertisement from Correspondenten Aug. 24, 1869, says that the Excellencen Toll would convey passengers to Copenhagen, where they could proceed on the American steamer "Fulton" for New York. The other announcement to the left is for the "Amerikanske Emigrant-Kompagni" and reveals that new, huge and well equipped 1st classed iron screw steamers would depart every week from Copenhagen for New York. The first ship for the season would be the S/S Denmark to depart on April 15th. General agent was O. Svendson. The S/S Denmark was owned by the National Line

Edited by - dylankylesimon on 07/03/2023 02:50:06
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