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Kċarto
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  21:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I jump a little between the church books in Eiker and Kongsberg to clear my mind, and came across this baptism in Kongsberg.

April 16. 1766. Peder Olsen Jĉgers daughter Anne.
One of the godparents was Nicolai Olsen Jĉger
Left page 5. baptism from top. Link

Edited by - Kċarto on 15/11/2021 21:49:33
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halvelm1
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  22:36:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found the Skifte for Haraldsrud. The 1699-1722 book 4 has no register, but it was on page 276. It matches the card, but there is nothing there that I can read that suggests he is my guy. Your link makes that a closed case.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081024640279 - skifte for Anders Christoffersen Haraldrud.
Farm name is not Haraldrud in skifte, it's much shorter.

Larry H
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Kċarto
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  22:41:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halvelm1

I found the Skifte for Haraldsrud. The 1699-1722 book 4 has no register, but it was on page 276. It matches the card, but there is nothing there that I can read that suggests he is my guy. Your link makes that a closed case.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081024640279 - skifte for Anders Christoffersen Haraldrud.
Farm name is not Haraldrud in skifte, it's much shorter.



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halvelm1
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  23:24:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW I have two other births for brothers of Peder (father of Anne) : Two Anders (17 Sep 1740 and 1 May 1746). Peder died 7 Feb 1795. The farm where Anders died in 1717 could be a help; very short, can you read it? I was looking on the wrong line for age. I believe the age is 49 making him born in 1668.
I had two potential brothers for Hans, Christoffer, Sidtzel and Ole, With the 1717 death date for Anders :Bertel Andersen Jager (abt. 1720-1752) and Niels Andersen Jager (1722-1752) appear wrong as brothers. Also, a potential sister Elen Andersen Jager. Ole Andersen Jager was listed as godparent for Niels children Anna Marie (1750) and Niels (1753). Elen Andersdatter and Ole Andersen Jager were godparents for Hans Andersen Jagers daughter Kiersten (1 Dec 1743). Godparents are typically related some way or perhaps they are neighbors if living at a place named Jager. In the 1724 solverk mantall in Kongsberg there is also a Hans Jeger born abt. 1702 in K-berg with 15 years service. (started age 7?)

Larry H
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halvelm1
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  23:40:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Correction to last post: Anders died May 722 making his birth about 1673 not 1668.

Larry H
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Kċarto
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Posted - 15/11/2021 :  23:55:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was born on Amundrud which was his fathers farm which means that an man named Amund was the first settler who cleared the land.
Modum has a "Bygdebok" I can take a look into it tomorrow
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Kċarto
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Posted - 16/11/2021 :  00:21:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Haraldsrud in the Bygdebok:
The farm was ca 1700 cultivated by Christopher Amundrud.
1715 his son Anders Christophersen 1688-1721 (Probate) recieved deed on the farm. He married Alhed Olsdatter 1690-1743, from farm Helgedalen.
Widow Alhed Olsdatter married 1726 Jens Knudsen Gċserud d 1778. His grandson Abraham Nilsen inherited the farm

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halvelm1
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Posted - 17/11/2021 :  00:20:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kaarto we have both been at this too long - Looks like Haradsrud is wrong probate. I wish the farm name in the dode book for Anders Christoffersen was legible. I am still hoping to find the correct skifte. I was wondering about a bygdeboker for Schodtzelvan or Skodselv in Ovre Eiker?

Larry H
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Kċarto
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Posted - 17/11/2021 :  19:39:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You’re welcome. Eiker municipality, unfortunately has no Bygdebok, but Anders probate register must exist, but where?

Edited by - Kċarto on 17/11/2021 19:41:57
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halvelm1
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Posted - 18/11/2021 :  01:06:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dags Thordalen on Arkivverket just posted an amazing amount of information on Jagers. He believes Anders Christoffersen may have gone with the family to Kongsberg. So the skifte may be in Kongsberg.

Larry H
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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/11/2021 :  09:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing News.
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halvelm1
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Posted - 20/11/2021 :  00:52:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This clip from Dag Thorsdalen, explains why you can't find miner's probates due to jurisdictions:

There are no probates available in Kongsberg before 1739. The reason why we don't find any probate in Skotselv, is probably that the Hassel Jernverk due to the mining legislation had its own jurisdiction, and, thus, those belonging to its jurisdiction are not to be found in the ordinary probate registration protocols. It is the same for Kongsberg, but there the civil jurisdiction was split apart from the mining company in the late 1730s.

Larry H
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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/11/2021 :  14:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kongsberg has probates from 1705 Link

Edited by - Kċarto on 20/11/2021 14:41:56
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halvelm1
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Posted - 26/11/2021 :  19:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will relay this info from Dag:
There is a probate protocol for the years 1705-12. However, no "ordinary people" are mentioned there. Only once I have found anything helpful in it. The next protocol starts in 1739:


Larry H
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halvelm1
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Posted - 03/12/2021 :  19:17:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Posting here has been very beneficial to my genealogy efforts. I now know the Jaeger name goes back to two ends of Eiker. Stavlum Sondre farm, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker and Skotselv at the other end. Ingeborg Sebjornsdatters' (1679-1739) sons used the name when they moved to Kongsberg to pursue mining careers. This was probably after death of their father Anders Christoffersen Schodtzelven (b. 1673). Ingeborg's brother, Hans Sebjornsen Jaeger (b. 1666), used the name Jager/Jeger/Jaeger earlier when he moved to Kongsberg about 1702. He worked as a melter at the silver works. He is not mentioned in Eiker after 1691. This period (1691-1702) could be when the name was first adopted. Did it come from the marriage to an unknown wife? or some military service?
Hans and Ingeborg's father was Sebjorn Pedersen Stavlum (1636-1726). Ingeborg and Sebjorn's four miner sons were: Kristoffer (1705), Ole (1709), Hans (1715) and Niels (abt. 1722). Niels Andersen Jaeger, age 32, married, died of lack of oxygen (the "stanken") in the Samuel mine disaster on Oct 19 1752. The others who died with him were: Johan Henrich Andersen, age 30, married, Anders Olsen , age 31, married, Lars Olsen Ottestad, age 46, married, and Nils Olsen Lĝnnevi, age 18. The big bells rang free in the Kongsberg church.

Larry H
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