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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 08/04/2026 : 15:00:44
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Success depends on which of the records about Ole William Johansen you want to rely upon.
The actual birthdate would, ordinarilly, be a good piece of evidence if Ole William actually reported it, but so far is not born out in Norway records.
Ole William's headstone gives a birth year of 1892, not a full date; his for certain date in New Zealand, right now, is in 1921 when he married there and a look at the actual record of it would be helpful, his military service (if the notation in FAG is accurate) wherever / whenever it occurred.
To explore Ole Viktorin Johansen further, there are the sailor mønstring records of Fredrikstad (which are indexed) I did look but didn't find Ole Viktorin, the German sailor's database at Ancestry--have had memory this was a deserted german sailors database, not sure of value, the lives of 11 siblings, the parents Swedish roots and the mother's dødsfallsprotokol, if it exists.
Not sure if there might be a motivation to shave a few years off or put a few years on at the time or not. Here are a few thoughts.
Ole Johansen filed a Declaration of Intention to become a US citizen. Usually that step is taken quickly if you want to take a homestead in US. To take a homestead, I believe, requires you to be of the age of 21. You did not have to become a citizen to homestead (that was a common myth) but all you need to have done is just have filed the declaration.
If you are a declared potential citizen, how does that relate to military service during the 1st World War? Germany and Britain were already at war in 1914. Ole Johansen left from Hamburg, Germany. Was Germany impressing civilian sailors to service during WWI?
US joined the war later in 1917. You were required to register for the draft, whether citizen or not, if you were male and in the age category (born roughly abt 1875-1899).
An Ole Johanson male aged 22 years, Norway Norwegian does arrive 10 April 1914 at San Francisco from Honolulu. There is a not very legible notation in pencil on the person above him in the list HJ Aiesback from Sweden which is dittoed for Ole. Not sure what the meaning is.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 11/04/2026 23:05:59 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/04/2026 : 16:04:46
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Ole Viktorin Johansen's mailing address in may 1915 was Sailors Union in Honolulu. Maybe this current Sailors Union of the Pacific:
Honolulu Office
707 Alakea St.
Honolulu HI 96813
(808) 533-2777
(808)533-2778 fax
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/04/2026 : 19:34:34
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Continuing to work the Ole Viktorin line, there is a public family tree for his birth family online at familysearch.org
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/L58Z-NB7
Interesting that Ole has a brother born on 22 Jan but in 1897 whose middle name is Vilhelm....And that brother Edvard Martin Johansen d.y. died in 1922 which might be why Ole was being looked for in 1922.
#80 Edvard Martin Johansen
Fredrikstad byfogd, AV/SAO-A-10473a/H/Ha/Hab/L0007: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1918-1922, s. 94-95
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20090520330700
Unfortunately, names only his mother the widow Emma Andersen Sundby.
Sister Anna Karoline who dies in 1918 #201:
Fredrikstad byfogd, AV/SAO-A-10473a/H/Ha/Hab/L0007: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1918-1922, s. 10-11
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20090520330657
Only her mother is mentioned.
An Emma Kristine Andreasdatter / Johansen dies in March 1935 which means her dødsfallsprotokol isn't available online.
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ToreL
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Posted - 09/04/2026 : 16:50:53
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
An Emma Kristine Andreasdatter / Johansen dies in March 1935 which means her dødsfallsprotokol isn't available online.
Possibly not Ole Viktorin's mother. According to the 1920 census, she (Ole's mother) was born 1862-09-24, which matches this death in 1941, with an (at east) equally inaccessible dødsfallsprotokoll. |
Edited by - ToreL on 09/04/2026 17:12:00 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/04/2026 : 21:00:40
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Ollie William Johansen - anyone have any info?
