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ldsmom33
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 Posted - 21/05/2002 : 16:45:52
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I need to find someone who knows the ship name and passenger list for a 1913 voyage from Bergen,Norway to NY. My relative Conrad Ole Hansen b- 11/1893 in Bergen, came here in 1913 and settled in Iowa. He married Edna Lizer in 1917. They had 3 children and lived in Iowa until WW2 when they moved to LongBeach,CA. He died 1973 in LongBeach,CA and is buried in Westminster Cemetery.
I have a 1920 Iowa census showing his birth place,language, and his parents info all being from Bergen,Norway.
It also shows he came here in 1913 through NY.
Lisa in CA
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 21/05/2002 : 18:09:47
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Can't find him in the Bergen emigration records at Digitalarkivet! Did you try the Ellis Island database?
Børge Solem
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ldsmom33
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Posted - 21/05/2002 : 21:24:26
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Can't find him in the Bergen emigration records at Digitalarkivet! Did you try the Ellis Island database?
Børge Solem
Edited by - borge on 21/05/2002 18:10:09
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ldsmom33
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 02:11:03
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Can't find him in the Bergen emigration records at Digitalarkivet! Did you try the Ellis Island database?
Børge Solem
Edited by - borge on 21/05/2002 18:10:09
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ldsmom33
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 02:14:07
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Hi Borge,
I did try my hand at looking at the Ellis Island site but I didn't find much. Maybe you could help me? I am so new at this whole Norweigen search thing that I get lost easily and very confused. If my Conrad Ole Hanses jumped ship in 1913-1914 in NY to avoid Ellis Island would there still be a record to even find? Would there be a record in Norway, passenger list or crew list, and wouldn't finding him in America be impossible if he wasn't brought through Ellis Island?
Lisa
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Stephanie Benoit
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 04:18:40
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I need to find someone who knows the ship name and passenger list for a 1913 voyage from Bergen,Norway to NY. My relative Conrad Ole Hansen b- 11/1893 in Bergen, came here in 1913 and settled in Iowa. He married Edna Lizer in 1917. They had 3 children and lived in Iowa until WW2 when they moved to LongBeach,CA. He died 1973 in LongBeach,CA and is buried in Westminster Cemetery.
I have a 1920 Iowa census showing his birth place,language, and his parents info all being from Bergen,Norway.
It also shows he came here in 1913 through NY.
Lisa in CA
Hi Lisa,
The 1920 census that I have doesn't say he came from Bergen or came through New York. Where did you get that information? He doesn't show up on the Bergen emigration records though there are errors or I could have overlooked him. This made me curious enough to look for a candidate in Norway on the 1900 census - nothing in Bergen.
The censuses are often NOT accurate about the immigration year, among other things. The census does say he was born in Norway, but the California death record says he was born in New York. http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi HANSEN CONRAD O 11/29/1893 M NEW YORK LOS ANGELES(70) 11/01/1973 483-14-8989 79 yrs
Have you gotten his death certificate? Have you ordered his Social Security application? He would have listed his parents and his birth place. Have you seen his marriage license application and license? Since he doesn't readily show up in obvious Norwegian sources, you may need to work the US records a bit more to be sure you are finding the right man when you do find him. People have spent years following the wrong person because they assumed a person was theirs.
I know how frustrating it is in the beginning but it is very satisfying to follow the clues and sources to the right person.
Best of luck to you.
Stephanie in Pacifica, California
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ldsmom33
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 20:01:38
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Hi stephanie,
I got my Bergen,Norway info as his birth place from his daughters. They said 11/29/1895 bu this ssdi said 1893. His ssdi also said born in NY. This is wrong and I need to see about getting it changed. I just spoke to living children of his last week and they confirmed he was born in Norway and jumped ship so he wouldn't have to go through Ellis Island. They weren't sure how long he was in NY but he wasn't born there. I sent word online to see if someone would transcribe the DC for me in LongBeach,CA and I hope someone will do that. I have so many DC requests out there that it would cost me a fortune if I sent for them. I hav egotten many transcriptions this way.
His daughters told me Bergen,Norway and the census said 1913. I will try to narrow it down in US first.
Lisa
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Stephanie Benoit
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 21:47:37
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Lisa,
I know it gets expensive with all of the required documents for research. If you send for the SSDI application [$16.00 transcription], it is filled out and signed by the applicant. It should show the names of his parents. specific place of birth and where he was living at the time of the application. The death certificate is sometimes wrong depending on who the informant is at that time of stress. If a family member was the informant, hopefully it will be correct.
A number of times in researching, I have found people will say their ancestors were "from Bergen" but in fact, they are from a nearby area like Sogn or Hordaland. Sort of like I would say I live near San Francisco rather than Pacifica - where the heck is Pacifica? :-)
It is really frustrating. Another time, the family was sure their ancestor was from Trondheim but they really were from Telemark.
To further compound things, they use different names when they arrive here sometimes - even in that time frame.
I really am not trying to be difficult - I am trying to help you. Do the daughters remember any other names or were there some aunts or uncles that immigrated. Or if you can nail down the church records in IA, maybe you can get some clues.
Stephanie
Edited by - Stephanie Benoit on 31/05/2002 22:06:04 |
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 31/05/2002 : 22:10:39
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Do you know the names of any siblings?
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ldsmom33
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Posted - 02/06/2002 : 00:27:40
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Thank you both for your help. I will send for the SSDI info and hope for the best. I will ask my relatives too. I know that they went to Norway a few years back and got family info and I want to pick their brain. They are getting much older now so I must hurry. His daughter and daughter in law live in Southern CA. I'll keep you posted with my findings.
Lisa
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passenger list and ship name needed 1913
