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Per Jakob Haugaa
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 Posted - 19/02/2012 : 22:27:14
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Hei
I am looking for my great grandmother, Agnes Johnson. She was born in
Norway,Løten 1882, babtized Anette Ringnes Andersen, her parents were
Petrine and Ole Andersen. She went to the US in 1904, on the ship
Montebello to Boston. She left her two children in Norway, Per
(b.1901, my grandfather) and Anbjørg (b.1903). She married Emil
Johnson from Sweden 1910. They got three daughters, Esther (B.1911),
Helen (b.1913) and Marion (b.1920). In the 1930 census they lived in
Grover Township, Marinette County, Wisconsin.
We know that Agnes died the 5 of September, 1959.
We would appreciate your assistance in finding her descendants.
Sincerely,
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jwiborg
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/02/2012 : 01:24:50
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Hi,
Esther Stichmann's maiden name was revealed to be Kuehl not Johnson, so that's why Per is continuing his search.
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/02/2012 : 02:27:13
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I assume that this is the birth record for Esther and the Kingas is a version of Rignes.
Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922 Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922
Name: Esther V Johnson
Birth Date: 6 May 1913
Ethnicity: Canadian
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father Name: Emil Johnson
Mother Name: Agnes Kingnas
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Per Jakob Haugaa
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Posted - 20/02/2012 : 22:35:10
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We got the birth sertificate of Marion Agnes Johnson from the Wisconsin Vital State Office. She was born the 8th of February, 1920, in Grover Village, Marinette.
Lets hope we can find her descendants..!
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/02/2012 : 00:00:57
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Looking over the large number of places you have posted this query and the small amount of information you have obtained on the descendants of Agnes Johnson, you may have to take a different approach. It would seem that of the three daughters born in 1911 to 1920 that one or more of them probably married in the 1930 to 1950 time frame, probably in Wisconsin. Someone who lives in Wisconsin might be able to search though local records not availabel on-line and find newspaper records or state records for the marriages. I do not know if you can find someone who would do this work for a reasonable fee but that might be the way you will have to go if you want to complete the search. This person could be someone living in Marinette Wisconsin who wold have access to the local newspapers and local records or some one living in Madison Wisconsin with access to the state records.
Here are some websites that might provide you with a way to access records only availabe to someone living in one of the two areas, Marinette or Madison.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wimarine/
Has an e-mal address that you could try and send a query to in Marinette County.
Another site with an e-mail address that might be useable for Marinette County.
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/localhistory/directory/viewsociety.asp?id=260
It might be too expensive for what you want to do, but here are genealogists for hire in Madison Wisconsin.
http://www.mygenealogist.com/wisconsin-genealogy.htm
Here is a link to the Marinette County Library. They may keep copies of newspapers from the 1930's and 1950's, and may be able to find an obituary for Agnes.
http://www.nfls.lib.wi.us/askaway/ask_a_librarian_MRT.htm |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/02/2012 : 02:06:26
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Quickly checking the SSDI at www.genealogybank.com for Marion _____ b. 1920 SSN issued Wisconson found 225 and none with birthdate of 8 Feb.
checking for Marian _____b. 1920 SSN issued Wisconsin found 121 and only one with a birthdate of 8 Feb 1920. Her name was Marian E. Moth, but her maiden name was found as Schwartzlow at www.rootsweb.com
checking for Marianne ____ b. 1920 SSN issued Wisconsin
found 10, none with 8 Feb birthdate
Marion / Marian / Marianne may still be alive.
Her SSN may have been issued in some other state than Wisc.
Her name may be spelled in some other version.
She may have died without getting a Social Security death benefit.
Her birthdate may be recorded in Social Security system as some other date.
No luck today! |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 03:19:14
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| Per, I know you have posted on a large number of Ancestry message boards but have not yet got the answer you are looking for. You need to have some person make the effort to walk into the Marinette Library or Courthouse and do a look up. Your latest post that I found was in the Marinette Message Board of Ancestry.com. You posted on Feb 19th with no replies yet, but it is only been a few days so maybe it will happen yet. However if you look at the Thread, you can see some other messages of a similar nature to yours where some local people did try to find either obituaries or death certificates. Since I have an Ancestry.com subscription I sent a message to three of those people asking if they could help out here and find either a Obit or a Death Certificate for Agnes Johnson d Sept 5, 1958. Hopefully one of these three will be able to find the information you want. |
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Per Jakob Haugaa
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 16:23:18
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Thanks for your kindness! I will try to find an obituary of Agnes. Lets hope we`ll find something..!
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 04:32:26
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Some news already! Here is an e-mail from one of the people I queried about the Obituary.
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I have the full obit if you would like to send me an e-mail for you. The daughters are Mrs. Emil (Helen) Blankschien, from Harmony, WI; Mrs. Irving (Esther) Kunick, Milwaukee, WI; Mrs. Alfred (Marion) Francour, LaCrosse, WI. there were 7 granchildren, one sister, Mrs. Christ Synstad, Porterfield, WI.
Hope this helps him.
Susan
I will send you the full obit when I get it. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 04:36:54
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This might be the Alfred Francour mentioned in the obit above, if so he died fairly recently.
Social Security Death Index Social Security Death Index
Name: Alfred J. Francour
Last Residence: 53717 Madison, Dane, Wisconsin
Born: 14 Aug 1919
Died: 11 Jul 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951)
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 05:02:37
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If I read the partial obit correctly above, it indicates that Agnes had a sister who was married to a Christ Synstad. If so this must be her, she passed away in 1971.
1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Mina Synetad
[Mina Synstad]
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Lake, Marinette, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1899
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Christian Synetad
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christian Synetad 39
Mina Synetad 39
Otto Synetad 17
Alvin Synetad 14
Carl Synetad 9
Mabel Synetad 4
[4 9/12]
Martin Synetad 2
[2 8/12]
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Per Jakob Haugaa
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 08:11:53
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This is great news! I rwally appreciate your kindness in supporting me, Anton. My mother is very happy now that we have found her family. i wonder if Marion still lives?
I will search further later today.
Again, thank you very much!
Greetings from Norway, Per Jakob Haugaa |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 16:32:30
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Here is the Francour family in 1930 US Census. Not surpirsing they also lived in Grover Township, Marinette, Wisconsin.
1930 United States Federal Census 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Alfred Francour
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1920
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Race: White
Home in 1930: Grover, Marinette, Wisconsin
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Fred Francour
Father's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Mother's name: Clara Francour
Mother's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Household Members: Name Age
Fred Francour 39
Clara Francour 38
Glendora Francour 15
Alfred Francour 10
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