Well here is the arrival record for Elias Olsen in 1924.
Elias Olsen in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 Name: Elias Olsen Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Birth Place: Norway Age: 26 Date of Arrival: Apr 1924 Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Stavanger, Norway Ship Name: Carmania
Lists himself as Fisher and is seeking work, going to Torn Sorensen of Rupert BC.
Also lists nearest relative as friend Magnhild Aarvold of Arkilhavn Karmoen
Elias Olsen in the U.S., Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944 Name: Elias Olsen Age: 26 Birth Year: abt 1898 Arrival Year: 1924 Arrival Country: USA
Now thee was also this arrival record. By data it looked like the same guy.
Elias Olsen in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935Name: Elias Olsen Gender: Male Arrival Age: 29 Birth Year: abt 1898 Birth Country: Norway Departure Port: Liverpool, England Arrival date: 14 May 1927 Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada Vessel: Aurania
Original says he is from Arkara Norway,,
Going to friend Thor Johnson, Prince Rupert BC. and left wife Mrs. Hanna Olsen, Aarkara PR, Stavanger
We can look deeper and see if there were two guys with the same name, from the same area and going to the same friend in Prince Rupert BC but who arrived a different year and are actually two different people.
If there are two I followed one of them, probably the second guy to Alaska, to the east coat and where he died in New Bedford Mass.
Anton's candidate from the Karmøy online bygdebok: Bruksnr. 209. Solhaug. Norges Bebyggelse side 473 ? 1930-xxxx: Elias Olsen født 30.11.1897 Ole B Oliversen og Hanna ”Åkra Gift i 1919 med Hanna Larvik født 17.03.1896 Datter av Ånen og Serina ”Tysvær Barn: a)Ole E født: 17.09.1920 b)Ånen født:14.04.1922 c) Henry født: 15.10.1923
Here in the Karmøy book is Elias with his birth family. It says he went to America: 2. 1887-1929:
Ole Berdines Olsen , født 1863, død 07.01.1929 Sønn av Ola Oliversen og Berta Marie Olsdatter ”Forrige bruker Gift 1.gang i 1887 med Inger Marie Eriksdatter , født 1863, død 1888 Datter av Erik Larssen og Nilsine Andersdatter ”Medhaug bnr. 2 Gift 2.gang i 1895 med Hanna Lovise Eliasdatter , født 1861, død 1927 Datter av Elias Tønnessen og Johanna Eliasine Johannesdatter ”Åkra bnr. 43 Barn i 1.ekteskap: a) Lars Edvard født:1888 Død 1895 Barn i 1.ekteskap: b) Inger Edvardine født: 12.10. 1896 Gift med Ingvald Rosenius Pedersen ”Åkra bnr. 55 c) Elias født: 12.12. 1897 Gift med Hanna Bertine Ånensdatter ”Amerika d) Ole Mandius født: 09.07. 1899 Gift med Gerda Helene Jørgensdatter ***
There were only 4 Elias Olsen in the book, and only one mentioned going to US.
There are a total of 36 Elias Olsen b 1897-1902 found in the 1910 Norwegian census This is a subset of those, being those who resided in Bergen or Hordaland (the parishes around Bergen) at the time of the census:
Elias Olsen Røsbøvik (male) 1901-11-19 Stord s ug Søn Stord: Røsbø-vik (plads) 1910-12-01 1910 census for Stord
Elias Olsen (male) 1899-08-29 Ullensvang s ug Søn Ullensvang: Eitrheim 1910-12-01 1910 census for Ullensvang
Nils Elias Olsen (male) 1897-01-14 Fjeld s ug Fjeld: Syltøy 1910-12-01 1910 census for Fjell
Elias Olsen (male) 1902-05-24 Hosanger s ug søn Hosanger: Birkeland 1910-12-01 1910 census for Hosanger
Elias Olsen Eide (male) 1898-01-11 Bjørsvik Hosanger s ug Søn Hosanger: Eide ytre 1910-12-01 1910 census for Hosanger
Elias Olsen (male) 1902-11-24 Lindaas s ug Lindaas: Feste nordre 1910-12-01 1910 census for Lindås
Alfred Elias Olsen (male) 1897-05-17 Masfjorden s ug Søn Masfjorden: Kvinge - søndre 1910-12-01 1910 census for Masfjorden
These are any Elias Olsen found in all the emigration databases at the Digitalarkivet who were born 1897-1902 and who left 1920-1930
Elias Olsen (male) 1897 g Fisker Aakra 1924-04-14 Emigrants from Stavanger 1903-1928
Hans Elias Olsen Ness (male) 1900 Bergen ug Værksarbeide Bergen 1923-08-13 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Elias Olsen Tokheim (male) 1900 Odda ug Agronom Odda? Hardanger 1923-11-19 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Elias Olsen Dvergsdal (male) 1897 Jølster Mr ug Sagmøllearb. State of Oregon 1925-01-22 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Elias Olsen Fæste (male) 1902 Lindaas u Pedel Usa 1929-08-07 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Oskar Elias Olsen Jøsok (male) 1897 g fisker Herøy Møre 1923-04-05 Emigrants from Ålesund 1878-1930
Jørgen Elias Olsen Parr (male) 1901 ug løsarbeider Sunylven 1923-07-18 Emigrants from Ålesund 1878-1930
Peder Elias Olsen Brekke (male) 1898 ug baker Ørsta 1923-11-08 Emigrants from Ålesund 1878-1930
Johan Elias Olsen Klepp (male) 1897 ug sjømand Volda 1923-11-20 Emigrants from Ålesund 1878-1930 __________________________________________________ Of these Hans Elias Olsen Ness is the only one born in Bergen. Here he is in 1922 Bergen Municipal census: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01065522090161
In his mother's dødfallsprotokol (abbreviated probate record) Hans is carried as Hans Næss and is living in Canada. Amongst his male siblings most appear to use Næss except one who went with Olsen. The mother died late Dec 1930 : SAB, Byfogd og Byskriver i Bergen, 06/06Na/L0016: Dødsfallsjournaler, 1929-1931, p. 249 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20090611350653 #1001 ____________________________________________________ Peder Elias Olsen Brekke the baker, is probably this man who died in California. Birthdate in US differs by 5 days to Peder's in the 1910 census of 28 April 1898. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPHM-QPR https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036755000644 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jørgen Elias Olsen Parr was born 18 Dec 1901 in Sunnylven. He may be this George E Parr, Norwegian, 33, working as crew aboard the SS Westfjord, going from Prince Rupert BC to Seattle Wash. in 1935:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZD-XMH https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036758000811 ____________________________________________________
He married a woman named Gudrun in 1929 and died 15 Feb 1943 in Portland with his wife and his brother Ole as only listed survivors. ____________________________________________________
_______________________________________________ Elias Olsen Tokheim entered US Oct 1925 last residing at Fort William Ontario, coming in through Mineral Center, Minnesota on his way to his uncle Jacob Tokheim at Loma, North Dakota. He's aiming for a permanent residence. He landed in 1923 at St. John NB. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKNP-BXDJ
Hi Everyone - especially JaneC, jkmarler, jwiborg and Lyndal40. Ok so I have been chasing the wrong Elias. My mother died last November and in going through her papers my sister and I were unable to find ANY information on our father. There isn't a birth certificate or personal papers belonging to my father. He was indeed on the SS Carmania which sailed from Stavanger, Norway 18/4/24. The document is hard to read but my father did sign it and stated his age as 26. He arrived in Quebec, Canada in April 1924 (no specific day is mentioned just the month). My Elias married my mother on October 2nd, 1943. He was killed on March 9, 1952. I have copies of the death notice, the newspaper notices of the accident and the result of the trial (2 years prison for the driver). That is the only information my sister and I have. She has contacted the Canadian Government to see if he became a naturalised citizen but has yet to hear from them. So I will keep on looking. I do remember my mother saying he was from Bergen.
You don't have any personal papers concerning your father. Where did you obtain the Carmania document?
Anton's candidate from the Karmøy online bygdebok: Bruksnr. 209. Solhaug. Norges Bebyggelse side 473 ? 1930-xxxx: Elias Olsen født 30.11.1897 Ole B Oliversen og Hanna ”Åkra Gift i 1919 med Hanna Larvik født 17.03.1896 Datter av Ånen og Serina ”Tysvær Barn: a)Ole E født: 17.09.1920 b)Ånen født:14.04.1922 c) Henry født: 15.10.1923
Here in the Karmøy book is Elias with his birth family. It says he went to America: 2. 1887-1929:
Ole Berdines Olsen , født 1863, død 07.01.1929 Sønn av Ola Oliversen og Berta Marie Olsdatter ”Forrige bruker Gift 1.gang i 1887 med Inger Marie Eriksdatter , født 1863, død 1888 Datter av Erik Larssen og Nilsine Andersdatter ”Medhaug bnr. 2 Gift 2.gang i 1895 med Hanna Lovise Eliasdatter , født 1861, død 1927 Datter av Elias Tønnessen og Johanna Eliasine Johannesdatter ”Åkra bnr. 43 Barn i 1.ekteskap: a) Lars Edvard født:1888 Død 1895 Barn i 1.ekteskap: b) Inger Edvardine født: 12.10. 1896 Gift med Ingvald Rosenius Pedersen ”Åkra bnr. 55 c) Elias født: 12.12. 1897 Gift med Hanna Bertine Ånensdatter ”Amerika d) Ole Mandius født: 09.07. 1899 Gift med Gerda Helene Jørgensdatter ***
There were only 4 Elias Olsen in the book, and only one mentioned going to US.
Two different birthdates for the same man? No born 30 Nov 1897 and baptized 12 Dec 1897 #25: SAST, Kopervik sokneprestkontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. A 4, 1882-1905, p. 67 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050901030363
Other Elias' not all noted as residents of Akre born 1896-1902: An Elias noted as Ingvaldson although his father is Andres Ingvald Olsen # 15: SAST, Kopervik sokneprestkontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. A 4, 1882-1905, p. 70 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050901030366
An Elias father is Elias Eliassen #21: SAST, Kopervik sokneprestkontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. A 4, 1882-1905, p. 81 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050901030377
Two Elias #22 whose father is Tonnes Eliassen and another #27 whose father is Tonnes Hansen: SAST, Kopervik sokneprestkontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. A 4, 1882-1905, p. 91 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050901030387
I am using this post since it lists his birth as 28 May 1900. Perhaps we can use that since we have pretty much ruled out most Elias Olsen we have found.
I wil use May 28 with father Ole and vary the birth years. I will look for first names that might morph into Elias. In 1900, only one.
Olaf Olsen Handeland in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Olaf Olsen Handeland Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 mai 1900 (28 May 1900) Baptism Date: 24 jun 1900 Baptism Place: Skånevik, Hordaland, Norway Father's Age: 1857 Mother's Age: 1866 Father: Ole Johan Olsen Handeland Mother: Johanne Tollefsen FHL Film Number: 1283392 Reference ID: BK1 P52 CN7
Name: Einar Endresen Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 mai 1901 (28 May 1901) Baptism Date: 28 jul 1901 Baptism Place: Barbu, Aust-Agder, Norway Father's Age: born 1863 Mother's Age: born 1862 Father: Ole Tarvald Endresen Mother: Emma Kristine FHL Film Number: 1283344 Reference ID: Book 2
Found him in Kansas City under Einar Endresen. Lots of records for him including this one.
Einar Endresen in the U.S., Index to Alien Case Files at the National Archives at Kansas City, 1944-2003 Name: Einar Endresen Birth Date: 28 May 1901 Country of Origin: Norway Registration Number: 4543764
Also tried Olsen as a last name. Found none in 1900, or 1899 and one Thoralf Otto Olsen in 1898 but found him in New York in 1942.
Found one in 1901 but it would be a stretch to turn Alv Bjarne into Elias
Name: Alv Bjarne Olsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 mai 1901 (28 May 1901) Birth Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway Baptism Date: 28 jul 1901 Baptism Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway Father: Peter Kaspar Olsen Mother: Ragnhild Kristine Christiansen
The Montreal Gazette newspaper is still available online in the Google News Archive. The site is a bit quirky these days, searches for newspaper mentions prior to 1970 will produce no results, so you have to browse, issue by issue, page by page. Perhaps you will snag a news article about the crash death of Elias Olson on 9 March 1952 and also find an obituary with more biographical information. Good Luck!
Lynn, you assume Elias was driving and was a driver. In the account it says he was on the road when hit. He may have been walking home. Very, very few people named Aleas in Norway, exactly 3 are found by the Digitalarkivet search engine. More than likely, it's a typo which happen frequently in days of yore and also today.
lot of people carry there driving license with them when not driving the poiice would need some way to indentity him so he must have had sometimg on him that the police knew who he was
Family of Elias Olsen
Posted - 28/08/2018 : 05:06:39
