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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 28/08/2018 : 07:36:01
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Hmm, maybe we need to go back and check some of the information provided by the OP on his arrival into Canada and work back from that and see who he really is.
This might be where the OP gets her arrival information from.
Elias Olsen
in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Elias Olsen
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 26
Date of Arrival: Apr 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Stavanger, Norway
Ship Name: Carmania
Lists himself as Fisher and is seeking work, going to Torn Sorensen of Rupert BC.
Nearest relative in Norway is Magnhild Aavold friend of Aakilhaven? Karmoen ?
In the Karmøy book online, there are only 5 people with Magnhild name. The one that is roughly contemporary with Elias Olsen is this:
?. 1898 -????: Oluf Jakobsen , født 1872 i Stavanger
Sønn av *Ukjent opphav
Gift i 1895 med Severine Endresen , født 1873
*Ukjent opphav (Kom fra Haugesund)
Barn:
a)Randolf født:1895
b)Andreas født:1895
c) Bergit Kristine født: 1898
d) Magnhild født: 1900
e) Ola født: 1902
f) Nille Johanna født:1903
Is there any indication on the record of marital status? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 28/08/2018 07:37:18 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 17:02:57
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Here is the family of above Magnhild in the 1910 Census in Stavanger.
1910
And living on Aakrehavn, Åkra in 1900. Good match with the data from the arrival document for Elias Olsen.
1900
And a good match location wise with the family of Elias Olsen also on Aakrehavn, Åkra in the 1900 Census.
1900
If you click on the arrows for Previous Domicile and Next Domicile they are next to one another in the census data.
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 17:30:06 |
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lynn peterson432
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 19:44:47
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Originally posted by jwiborg
A possibility from Fjell, Hordaland, born 1901-05-28.
Obituary for Phyllis.
this obituary doesnt mention any spouses preceding her in death |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 20:03:45
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We can rule out Elias Olsen from Aakra, he is not the correct guy. He died as a Mason in 1958.
Born 30.11.1897
His Parents: Ole Oliversen & Hanna Lovisa Eliasdatter
His wife: Hanna Bertine Ånensdatter
His Children:
a) Ole E, 17.Sep.1920
b) Ånen, 14.Apr.1922
c) Henry, 15.Oct.1923
He emigrated in 1927:
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Elias Olsen
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Country: Norway
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival date: 14 May 1927
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Aurania
Original says he is from Arkara Norway,,
Going to friend Thor Johnson, Prince Rupert BC. and left wife Mrs. Hanna Olsen, Aarkara PR, Stavanger
Elias Olsen in the Massachusetts, Mason Membership Cards, 1733-1990
Name: Elias Olsen
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1897
Death Date: 9 May 1958
Last Residence Place: New Bedford
Lodge: Quittacus
Occupation: Fisherman
Is this guy the same person as on the 1924 Carmania?
Likely, according to this finding from jkmarler:
Elias Olsen
(male) 1897 g Fisker Aakra 1924-04-14 Emigrants from Stavanger 1903-1928
Married fisherman from Aakra.
Thus; the Elias Olsen on the 1924 Carmania must be the one who dies in New Bedford in 1958. The Carmania manifest is misleading information.
How and where did you obtain the Carmania manifest? |
Edited by - jwiborg on 28/08/2018 20:31:11 |
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 20:33:03
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| we need look fora marriage of elias olsen and phyllis johnston oct 2 1943 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:05:03
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Worth digging into the emigration to see if we can put to rest the question of who emigrated when.
Here is the meta data look at Elias Olsen from Akra in 1924
1924
Looks like he also travelled from Canada in 1929 as well.
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 23:23:39 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:12:23
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Worth digging into the emigration to see if we can put to rest the question of who emigrated when.
Here is the meta data look at Elias Olsen from Akra in 1924
1924
Can you post the canadian arrival record/image? |
Edited by - jwiborg on 28/08/2018 22:12:52 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:18:29
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NOTE
From 1919–1924 individual manifest forms (Form 30A) were often used instead of passenger lists as the official immigration record. The use of Form 30A, also known as “Ocean Arrivals”, accounts for most of the gaps in years covered in this database. Ancestry will be adding the “Ocean Arrivals” records in the coming months. If you do not find an individual in this database, you may want to try searching the “Ocean Arrivals” records.
Here is the arrivals form
Elias Olsen
in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Elias Olsen
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 26
Date of Arrival: Apr 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Stavanger, Norway
Ship Name: Carmania
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 23:41:25 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:22:42
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The 1927 arrival
Elias Olsen
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Elias Olsen
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Country: Norway
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival date: 14 May 1927
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Aurania
Search Ship Database: Search for the Aurania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 22:31:08 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:36:13
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| The 1927 - arrival is the Mason. Question is if the 1924-arrival is the same man,. I think it is, although not possible to read it. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 22:49:54
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Here are the record for the Arrivals in 1929. By this time he is living in Mass.
Elias Olsen
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Elias Olsen
Arrival date: 24 May 1929
Birth Date: abt 1898
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: stavanger
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Aquitania
Imigration Visa was issued at Bergen, Place of birth is given a Stavanger, Norway Last address was Ketchikan.
Name: Elias Olsen
Gender: Male
Petition Age: 45
Record Type: Petition
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1897
Birth Place: Aakrehavn, Norway
Arrival date: 24 May 1929
Arrival Place: New York, New York
Petition Date: 16 Apr 1943
Petition Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Spouse: Hannah
Petition Number: 253731
His marriage record from 1919.
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 23:31:12 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/08/2018 : 23:05:55
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The 1927 - arrival is the Mason. Question is if the 1924-arrival is the same man,. I think it is, although not possible to read it.
Maybe this will help
11 Can You Read Yes What Language Norwegian
12 By Whom Was Your Passage Paid myself
13. Ever Refused Entry to or Deported from Canada no
14. Destined To my friend mr. Torn Simonsen
P. B. 148 Prince Rupert B. C.
15. By What Canadian Railway are you traveling to destination
16. Nearest Relative from country from which you came.
Magnhild Aarvold friend
Aakrehavn Karmoen
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 23:37:24 |
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lynn peterson432
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 29/08/2018 : 06:00:06
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| audrin mentions her father was married oct 2 1942 or 1943 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/08/2018 : 07:28:28
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| No sign of any wife in the arrival record from 1924. Instead, the nearest neighbour is mentioned.... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/08/2018 : 13:09:13
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| It actually says "s" for single. Maybe she's married and he isn't? That happens today too....But check out the Karmøy bygdebok, there are lots of Elias' but not so many Elias Olsen b 1897-1899 |
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