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                | jkmarlerNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  20:27:08     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by David Wallace
 
 
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 Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
 
 
 
 
 Error ! Thollak Thollaksen  was father of the bride.
 
 
 
 Put in the link so we can all see...
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                | jkmarlerNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  20:29:58     
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                      | There are 2 Lena Evans born in Norway living in Chicago, be wary! |  
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                | AntonHNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  21:46:27     
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                      | Here is the mariage record for Rachel daughter of Tollok Tollloksen. And then her baptism recored. Not likely the same Tollok that we are looking for. 
 Rachel Thollaksdatter
 in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
 Name:	Rachel Thollaksdatter
 [Rachel Thollaksen]
 Gender:	Female
 Marital Status:	Single
 Age:	27
 Birth Date:	1827
 Birth Place:	Soggendal
 Marriage Date:	2 feb 1854
 Marriage Place:	Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
 Father:	Thollak Thollaksen
 Spouse:	Gabriel Larsen
 FHL Film Number:	1282679
 Reference ID:	Bk3 P227 CN2
 
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 Rachel Tollaksen
 in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
 Name:	Rachel Tollaksen
 Gender:	Female
 Birth Date:	20 jan 1826
 Birth Place:	Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway
 Father:	Tollak Tollaksen
 Mother:	Anne Bergithe Jonsdtr
 FHL Film Number:	948.31S3 V26H
 
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                      | Edited by - AntonH on 04/10/2018  23:27:10
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                | AntonHNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  22:06:49     
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                      | Well this is making me a little confused. 
 We have this record for a Olena W Tollaksen marring a Lewis Evanson in 1876.
 
 Olive W Tollaksen
 in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
 Name:	Olive W Tollaksen
 Age:	24
 Gender:	Female
 Birth Year:	abt 1852
 Marriage Type:	Marriage
 Marriage Date:	17 Jul 1876
 Marriage Place:	Chicago, Cook, Illinois
 Spouse Name:	Lewis Evanson
 Spouse Age:	24
 Spouse Gender:	Male
 FHL Film Number:	1030097
 
 Lewis Evanson died in 1877 and Olena Evanson marries a Thomas Duncan in 1886.
 
 Olena Evanson
 in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
 Name:	Olena Evanson
 Age:	33
 Gender:	Female
 Birth Year:	abt 1853
 Marriage Type:	Marriage
 Marriage Date:	25 Jun 1886
 Marriage Place:	Cook, Illinois
 Spouse Name:	Thomas Duncan
 Spouse Age:	34
 Spouse Gender:	Male
 FHL Film Number:	1030156
 
 And yet in a marriage record for one of the children of Thomas Duncan the mother is listed as Lena Simonson.
 
 Fletcher Henry Duncan
 in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
 Name:	Fletcher Henry Duncan
 Gender:	Male
 Age:	21
 Birth Date:	abt 1893
 Marriage Date:	4 Nov 1914
 Marriage Place:	Winnebago, Illinois, USA
 Father:	Thomas Duncan
 Mother:	Lena Simonson
 Spouse:	Hazel Beatrice Flannery
 Film Number:	001914059
 
 
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                      | Edited by - AntonH on 04/10/2018  23:19:41
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                | jkmarlerNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  23:39:02     
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                      | Number one could be either Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie in Norway or Olena Wilhelmenia born to Bertha in Norway. 
 Number two seems a little old to be either Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie in Norway or Olena Wilhelmenia born to Bertha in Norway.
 
 Number three is the same as number two and again a little old.\
 
 Number four could be Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie
 
 Here is Lena as a widow in 1879.
 
 Name:	Lena Evanson
 Gender:	Female
 Residence Year:	1878
 Street address:	50 W Ohio
 Residence Place:	Chicago, Illinois, USA
 Spouse:	Lewis Evanson
 Publication Title:	Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1878
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                      | Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018  02:09:07
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                | jkmarlerNorway Heritage Veteran
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 04/10/2018 :  23:57:08     
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                      | Theadore Duncan in the Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922
 Name:	Theadore Duncan
 Birth Date:	19 May 1887
 Birth Place:	Chicago, Cook, Illinois
 Ethnicity:	American
 Gender:	Male
 Race:	White
 Father:	Thomas Duncan
 Mother:	Olena W Evans Duncan
 FHL Film Number:	1287866
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                      | Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018  00:23:57
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  00:44:23     
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                      | Tollak Tollaksen and wife Berthe Osmundsdatter along with two children Tollef Andreas and Olena Wilhelmenia left Stavanger for America in 1853. 
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 I do not see any sign of a sister of Berthe traveling with the party.
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                      | Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018  00:45:48
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  02:01:50     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by jkmarler
 
 There are 2 Lena Evans born in Norway living in Chicago, be wary!
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  02:06:44     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by jkmarler
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by David Wallace
 
 
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 Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
 
 
 
 
 Error ! Thollak Thollaksen  was father of the bride.
 
 
 
 Put in the link so we can all see...
 
 
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N717-CQV
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  02:14:00     
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                      | Wrong Tollak Tolladkson!  See my post eighth post above. Tollak Tollakson and family left in 1853. See above also |  
                      | Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018  02:24:34
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  02:18:58     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by lyndal40
 
 Well this is making me a little confused.
 
 We have this record for a Olena W Tollaksen marring a Lewis Evanson in 1876.
 
 Olive W Tollaksen
 in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
 Name:	Olive W Tollaksen
 Age:	24
 Gender:	Female
 Birth Year:	abt 1852
 Marriage Type:	Marriage
 Marriage Date:	17 Jul 1876
 Marriage Place:	Chicago, Cook, Illinois
 Spouse Name:	Lewis Evanson
 Spouse Age:	24
 Spouse Gender:	Male
 FHL Film Number:	1030097
 
 Lewis Evanson died in 1877 and Olena Evanson marries a Thomas Duncan in 1886.
 
 Olena Evanson
 in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
 Name:	Olena Evanson
 
 And yet in a marriage record for one of the children of Thomas Duncan the mother is listed as Lena Simonson.
 
 Fletcher Henry Duncan
 in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
 Name:	Fletcher Henry Duncan
 Father:	Thomas Duncan
 Mother:	Lena Simonson
 Spouse:	Hazel Beatrice Flannery
 Film Number:	001914059
 
 
 
 
 Olena Tollaksdatter’s mother Berthe Aasmundsdatter remarried after Tollak’s death ( or divorce). Second husband Simon Erlandsen died and Bertha took simonson as her surname to match the surname Simonson of her america born children. no mystery.
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  02:33:20     
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                      | The mystery to me is where is Olena Wilhelmina in the 1860, and 1870 Census? Not with her mother. 
 In 1860 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Barton (Solomon?)
 
 In 1870 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Severin
 
 in 1880 Berthe is with Theodore, Barton and Lena
 
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                      |  Posted - 05/10/2018 :  04:26:20     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by lyndal40
 
 The mystery to me is where is Olena Wilhelmina in the 1860, and 1870 Census? Not with her mother.
 
 In 1860 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Barton (Solomon?)
 
 In 1870 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Severin
 
 in 1880 Berthe is with Theodore, Barton and Lena
 
 
 
 Yes with her mother.
 Lena=Olena Wilhelmina Tollaksdatter
 Bertha Simonson=Berthe Gurine Osmundsdatter= Berthe wife of Tollak Tollaksen.
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