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Marem
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 Posted - 10/03/2026 : 20:07:34
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| My great grandfather Peter Ingebrethsen Kabberud 1832-1916 immigrated to USA in 1867. My information says he sailed with his wife Kristine Jorgensdatter Rustad 1835-1904 and 4 children on the ship "Hulda" arriving in the USA on May 18, 1867. I am unable to find any records. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 10/03/2026 : 21:11:34
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| It will probably be good to search for first name Peder as well as first name Peter. I assume this is his baptism at Hurdal? It looks like his wife also had the first name Berthe? There is a Geni-profile indicating this, as well as a baptism. In the 1865 census, she is just Berte Jørgensdatter: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038026000423 |
Edited by - ToreL on 10/03/2026 21:32:40 |
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Marem
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Posted - 10/03/2026 : 23:40:31
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Thank-you for this. Peder and Berthe are indeed my people!
Yes, there are different spellings for my great and great, great grandparents which is why I find it so difficult to get information on them. I'm also trying to find the farms they lived on prior to immigrating. I know the last farm was Kabberud GNR 32, but none prior to that. I see 1865 census for Peder Engebretsen lists the residence as Sjulsrud. Is this a farm?
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ToreL
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Posted - 11/03/2026 : 10:12:28
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In fact, Kabberud is not farm number (GNR) 32 in Hurdal municipality; Gjøding is farm number 32, but Gjøding had a large number of small subfarms that were rented out, often not for money but for labor. Kabberud was one of these subfarms under Gjøding, today it is separated out as an individually owned property, with the number 32/16. (Gårdsnummer 32, bruksnummer 16.)
A person who rented such a place was called a husmann, and usually appeared under that title in the parish books. The subfarm itself was called a husmannsplass.
It appears that Kabberud was usually inhabited by a sagmester, which I take to be a foreman at a sawmill. The "bygdebok" for Hurdal relates that Peder's father was indeed a sagmester.
Sjulsrud was another husmannsplass, possibly under the farm Rud. (At many of the baptisms of their children, Peder and Berte are stated to live at Rud or Rudseie. (The postfux eie indicates a husmannsplass under the farm the postfix is attached to.))
One reason the spelling of names varied so much, is that the written language at the time was still essentially Danish, and names were routinely translated to some Danish equivalent or other. Then when Norwegian farm history books (bygdebøker) started to appear, they often revolted to this, and translated the names back to something that matched the pronounciation better. So, in the little piece about Kabberud in the Hurdal bygdebook (Clipping), Engelbreth is Ingebret and Peder is Per. (In fact, you should also try Ingebretsen in your searches.) Note the information that Ingebret came from the neighbouring municipality of Gran.
I am sorry I haven't touched on what you actually asked about; records concerning their travel. Others here are more expert on using the relevant databeses for that. What I do notice, is that the only ship Hulda I find in the list here, was built in 1868, the year after your family left...
Usually, the travel included two sea voyages, one from Norway, usually to England, and a second voyage to cross the ocean. Do you know if Hulda was the name of the first ship? It is a plausible name for a Norwegian ship. |
Edited by - ToreL on 11/03/2026 13:57:10 |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 11/03/2026 : 15:49:42
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| What source do you have that shows they traveled on a ship named Hulda in 1867? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/03/2026 : 17:16:47
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| The source "All Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 results" on Ancestry.com shows the Hulda with 33 passengers arriving in August 1868. But does not show any arrival fora a Hulda in 1867. |
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Marem
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 11/03/2026 : 17:19:40
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Thank-you so much for clarifying all the farm information. Now when I see places like Gjoding and Rud it's less confusing.
There are many Kabberud farms in Norway but the one I refer to (close to Hurdal kirke) was home to many of my ancestors going back to the early 1800s when I believe my great, great grandfather , Ingebret Andersen Kollen 1790-1867, (who was born on the Helgaker/Kollen ?? farm in Gran. ) also moved there. The last Kabberud (now Kabrud) to live there was Emil 1892-1980. And yes now it is privately owned. I hope to make first trip to Norway this summer.
Going back to the ship Hulda - it was information passed on to me by my aunt who is deceased. She wrote only this: "They boarded a sail boat named Hulda and arrived in America May 18, 1867, after 3 weeks crossing the ocean." So yes, Hulda may have been the first "sail boat"
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ToreL
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Posted - 11/03/2026 : 21:46:11
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| In the section on ship arrivals and departures in Norwegian newspapers in the spring of 1867, there are reports of a ship named Hulda (with captain Johansen, sometimes "Johannesen") sailing between Uddevalla and Hartlepool. The dates don't match particularly well, though, and I didn't see anything sbout landings in Norway. |
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 12/03/2026 : 08:33:12
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| The main problem with finding the passenger list is that there are no sources confirming that a sailing ship named Hulda carried emigrants from Norway to America in 1867. It is also unlikely that a sailing vessel could have completed the journey in three weeks. This means we have to question whether the information you received from your aunt is correct. |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/03/2026 : 02:25:46
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Passenger list for the Hulda arrival in August 1868
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Ragnilde Lie
abt 1868
Jul 1869
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Marit Raanaa
abt 1868
Jul 1869
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Jonikke Sivertsen
abt 1868
Jul 1869
Quebec City
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Mathilde Mikkelsen
abt 1868
Jul 1869
Quebec City
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Marie Saarheim
abt 1868
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Johan Flóttra
abt 1868
Jul 1869
Quebec City
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Caroline Máklebüst
abt 1868
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Quebec City
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Karoline Gjorde
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Jul 1869
Quebec City
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A Clementsen
Aug 1868
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Roning Gregorins
Aug 1868
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Marie Gregorins
Aug 1868
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Ole Pedersen
Aug 1868
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Peder Johnson
Aug 1868
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Ole Pedersen
Aug 1868
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M Benta Johannesen
Aug 1868
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Oline Johannesen
Aug 1868
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Joh Olsen
Aug 1868
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B Olsen
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E Eriksen
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L Christophersen
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Jacob Olsen
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Andreas Olsen
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Mad Hammer
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O Olsen
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O L Skuwberg
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C Kjelder
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Joh Olsen
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Joh Svendsen
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Mad M Andersen
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A Gulbrandsen
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H Olsen
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S Eriksen
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O Eriksen
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Mark Larsen
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M Borresen
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Mad Boleson
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M Olsen
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Alb Steen
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Miss Emma Christiansen
Aug 1868
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Miss T Corneliusen
Aug 1868
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Miss C Andersen
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https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1263/?event=1868&count=50&event_x=0-0-0&f-Self-Travel-Ship=hulda&f-Self-Travel-Ship_x=1
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/03/2026 : 03:27:10
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Hmmm. Well here is a link to the 1869 voyage of Hulda to Quebec and this one did land in July 1869:
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=voypaslis&id=532&lang=eng&ecopy=e003531390
Part of the family story is quite insistent on a July 1867 arrival. In the 1900 census Berte and the older children all say 1867 and in Berta's declaration of intention record she says they arrived in July 1867 at Quebec. The ship isn't named in the record.
Some interesting things. The search at the Canadian site adds the total number of people on the two voyages of Hulda together and comes up with 252 total. The newspaper article says 270 for the 1869 voyage by itself, so are some pages missing ? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/03/2026 05:32:42 |
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Marem
New on board
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Posted - 13/03/2026 : 03:36:45
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Thank-you everyone for your research! There must be errors in the information I submitted. I will check in with other family members and see if I'm able to uncover some facts.
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/03/2026 : 10:48:31
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Hurdal bygdebook says that Sjulsrud was sold in 1867, which is consistent with a departure that year.
At any rate, they cannot have left earlier, since Peder was a fadder (godparent?) at a baptism in March of 1867: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000001580209
What puzzles me, is that I haven't been able to find the family in the section of the parish book that lists the people moving out of the parish around 1867. |
Edited by - ToreL on 13/03/2026 11:09:04 |
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