Investigating Andreasen tree - help!

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Topic author: Redlightgal
Subject: Investigating Andreasen tree - help!
Posted on: 27/06/2013 15:24:02
Message:

I'm in the middle of researching my Norwegian heritage and have hit a snag. I figure this forum is full of experts, so why not try here?!

I've actually found records from family members but am not sure how to go about finding dates of death for certain members. All I have to go on is a birth date and am not sure if it's accurate. Here's what I do know.

Mother: Karen (Caren?) Olin Pedersdatter
Father: Andreas Johannesen

Children: Johan? (1864)
Gudbrand (1865)
Marthin ( 1869)?
Anthon (1870)?
Gyda (1874)
Lars (1876)

What's the best way to find a date of death? I've done preliminary searches but these names are so common in Norway. HELP!

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 27/06/2013 16:23:42
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A possible family on farm Tønsager Mørbråten in Eidsvold parish 1865
Andreas Johannesen, cottager with land and Caren Pedersdater with two sons;
Peton (Johan?) age 2
Gudbrand age 1

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 27/06/2013 16:46:44
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"Ungkarl" Bachelor Andreas Johannesen 25 and "Pigen" Maid Karen Olin Pedersdatter 27 married in Eidsvoll Dec. 28. 1864, see couple #37

Fathers; Johannes Johannesen and Peder Pedersen.

Eidsvoll
Eidsvoll church from ca 1200

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 27/06/2013 17:02:44
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The family as cottagers on farm Mobraaten (Mobråten) 1875

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 27/06/2013 17:28:59
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Karen Pedersdatter, cottagers wife and widow with Gyda and Lars married to Anne Hansdatter on farm Tønsagerbraaten 1900

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Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 27/06/2013 20:30:11
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Johan Peton (could also be read as Johan Peter) was born "out of wedlock" June 15 1864, see 169. Both parents were living at Tønsaker eiet.

Guldbrand was born Jan 4 1866, see #62, parents still at Tønsaker eiet.

Gyda was born Aug 17 1873, see #2, parents now at Sandholt eiet.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 27/06/2013 22:16:48
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Gyda, helping in the houses,unmarried, and her mother Karen supported by the municipality on farm Mobraaten 1910

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 00:01:08
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A question, so we do not have to look for people who had emigrated.
I cannot find Lars b. 1876 and his wife Anne Hansdatter in the 1910 census.

Who did emigrate to Canada?

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Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 28/06/2013 02:24:02
Message:

Oh my goodness, thanks to everyone who replied!

It's so overwhelming but all of you have helped so much. My mother will be beyond pleased :)

Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 28/06/2013 02:28:14
Message:

Hi!

Lars and Anne did emigrate to Canada - Winnipeg, in 1900. I've always wondered what happened to his siblings, since he didn't talk about them too much. This led me to believe that a couple of them had died at birth or shortly after.

In his records, I've only ever found a birthdate for each sibling. Always made me wonder...

Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 28/06/2013 03:51:29
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As far as I know, Lars and Anne were the only ones who ever emigrated to Canada.

I'm not even sure anyone other than Gyda survived past 1900?

It's really hard to search and know if I've hit the right record.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 10:03:23
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You are welcome.

Gubrand/Gulbrand moved to Oslo before 1890 where he married Kristine born in Sweden living in 2. floor Schleppegrells-street 24.
Wow; 8 children in 1910

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 14:15:29
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Your Lars Andreasen b. April 8. bapt. August 13. 1876, right page #112

Lars confirmation Oct. 12. 1880, see on top of the page #26
He was born on and lived on Tønsagereie. Eie means to own, the farm was a subfarm owned by Tønsager.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 14:23:21
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Lars Andreassen, roadworker from Tønsagereie and Anne Hansdatter Korgerud living on Røgholt married in Eidsvoll Nov. 10. 1900 #39 #29
Anne Hansdatter was from farm Korgerud in Ringebu
Her father was Hans Iversen Korgerud.

Annes parents and a sister Johanne b. 1871 as cottagers on Korgerud 1900

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 16:00:48
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Anne Hansdatter born Feb. 15. 1877.
She had the same name as her mother.
Her confirmation was on Mai 1. 1892, see #10

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Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 28/06/2013 22:30:52
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OH MY GOSH!

How can I ever thank you enough? This is beyond amazing.

Is there any type of BMD search site strictly for Norway, where I could find out how long Anthon and Marthin lived? They're my dead end at the moment.

I'm so happy I could cry! :)

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/06/2013 22:36:36
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Ahne (Anne) Hansdatter born on Kaurstadeiet, a sub farm under Kaurstad Feb. 15. bapt. Mai 10.1877, see #54

The parents on Korgerud 1875 with 3 children and the fathers father widower Iver Hansen, occ. "Træsker" Harvester, link

The father Hans Iversen was born in Venabygd "sogn" subparish in Ringebu

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 00:00:00
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Originally posted by Redlightgal

OH MY GOSH!

How can I ever thank you enough? This is beyond amazing.

Is there any type of BMD search site strictly for Norway, where I could find out how long Anthon and Marthin lived? They're my dead end at the moment.

I'm so happy I could cry! :)

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 00:22:13
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Anne´s brother Shoemaker Hans Hansen b. 1869 married Anne Østensdatter from farm Myrsløkken April 26. 1893.

Ringebu 1900.
Hans Hansen Aassveen, cottager with land and master shoemaker and Anna Østensdatter on Aassveen with 4 "Søn" Sons an a "Datter" Daughter Sesilie.
Thea Østensdatter Myrløkken is most likely Anne Østendatters sister, link

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 00:40:52
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Hans Hansen Korgerud, shoemaker, farmer and owner of farm Braaten Nedre (Lover Braaten) 1910
He was widowed and married Annas sister Thea Østensdatter, 7 children.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 13:01:28
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Johan Peton b. 1864 married Gusta Anne Marie Pedersdatter in Eidsvoll before 1893.
A son Karl Olof b. August 31. 1893, two of the godparents are your Lars Andreasen Tønsagereie and his sister Gyda Andreasdatter "do" Tønsagereie, #94
Johan Petons occ. was Cellulose/Pulp mill worker
A daughter Anna Pauline was born Dec. 8. 1895 before they moved to Oslo were 5 more children were born, last born was Trygve 1909.

The family lived in Helgesens gate (street) 18. in 1910
The bap. for the children was taken place in Paulus church

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 15:13:40
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Originally posted by Kåarto

Ahne (Anne) Hansdatter born on Kaurstadeiet, a sub farm under Kaurstad Feb. 15. bapt. Mai 10.1877, see #54

The parents on Korgerud 1874 with 3 children and the fathers father widower Iver Hansen, occ. "Træsker" Harvester, link

The father Hans Iversen was born in Venabygd "sogn" subparish in Ringebu

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 16:38:58
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Martin Andreas-Andresen b. Nov. 8. bapt. Dec. 27. 1868 settled down in Oslo before 1886 where he married Karoline from Tune

Martin Andresen, daylaborer, and Karoline in Oslo 1900 living in 5. floor in Havegaden (street) 39 with 4 sons, see nr 148831-148836, click here

Martin Andresen, widower living in 3. floor in Fosveien (street) 23 with the two youngets sons 1910

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/06/2013 19:58:15
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It gets a little jumping back and forth in time and place.

Korgerud in Ringebu 1891, see farm. nr. 34.2
- Hans Iversen, husband, occ. cottager with no land and lumber man.
- Anne Hansdatter, wife, occ. baking and cleaning
- Hans Hansen, son, unmarried, occ, shoemaker
- Mathias Hansen, son, unmaried, occ. shepard
- Ahne Hansdatter, daughter.
- Thorvald Hansen, son
- Ivar Hansen, Hans father, occ. Harvesting

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Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 30/06/2013 15:29:54
Message:

WOW!

This is amazing! Thank you for all of your hard work in helping! My parents will be thrilled with this.

Now, I will have to figure out how to put this all together in a formal family tree.

Safe to say that I have caught the genealogy bug!

Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 01/07/2013 02:21:07
Message:

Is it best to just search the Internet to get pictures of old farms? (If they even exist?)

I'd love to actually find a street/house/farm pic that is relevant. How does one go about finding this? Do these even exist?

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 01/07/2013 09:55:04
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You are welcome.

We can make a search for these farms later today, some should still exist.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 01/07/2013 14:19:53
Message:

First;
Korgerud 1900
Hans Korgerud occ. cottager and farmworker and Anne Hansdatter occ. daylaborer with a daughter Johanne b. on Korgerud Dec. 25. 1871 occ. housework.

Korgerud 1910
Anne/Anna Korgerud, widow, occ: run the farm, her daughter Johanne b. Dec. 25. 1871 (not 1875), unmarried, occ. housework and taking care of the cattle with a son Alfred b. 1905.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 01/07/2013 16:12:20
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Hans Iversen died on Korgerud Sept. 18. buried Sept. 26.1908, see on top of the page #13

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 01/07/2013 20:30:07
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Not easy to find these small cotter farms, if they still exist they are probbaly used as a summer recidence.

Gyda and her mother lived on Mobraaten/Mobråten in the 1900 census.
I have a photo of Mobraaten/Mobråten Villa, not sure but I believe Villa is a smaller place in Eidsvoll, Mobråten at Villa link

The same for Tønsagerbraaten /-bråten where Lars and Anne lived with his mother and Gyda 1900.
The main farm Tønsager is spelled Tønsåker today and exist.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 01/07/2013 23:58:18
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Originally posted by Kåarto

Anne´s brother Shoemaker Hans Hansen b. 1869 married Anne Østensdatter from farm Myrsløkken April 26. 1893.

Ringebu 1900.
Hans Hansen Aassveen, cottager with land and master shoemaker and Anna Østensdatter on Aassveen with 4 "Søn" Sons an a "Datter" Daughter Sesilie.
Thea Østensdatter Myrløkken is most likely Anne Østendatters sister, link

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Reply author: Redlightgal
Replied on: 02/07/2013 01:20:45
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Amazing!

I can't believe you found an image! Well, I can - you're good! Thanks so much!

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 02/07/2013 13:27:56
Message:

Thank you for nice words.
I don´t think I have more info at the time, if you do not want to see how fare back we can get in both parish´s.

It can work well, but sometimes you meet a brick wall.
I guess first you need time to sort out the records, it can be confusing when you read it a firts time.

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Reply author: KathrinJ
Replied on: 01/04/2015 20:51:03
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i know the post above is old,but this is my husbands family.:)

Johan Peton Andresen & Gusta Pedersdtr. had many children, Thorleif Sigvald (torleif) Andresen b. Jul 22 1907 ,is my husbands Grandfather.

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