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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 27/04/2012 : 00:09:43
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Interseting.
Drange was used as lastname in 1869, changed to Langhus later (Langhus-Longhouse)
The family lived on farm Drange in 1865 (Drange-peak upright cliff)
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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shenders13
New on board
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2012 : 17:02:06
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Jackie,
Yes that is the right Hans and Ida. I am not sure if Hans is linked to the Gilbertsons that they were searching for in this post? I was unsure if Ida was from Norway as well, looks like she probably wasn't. Thanks |
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shenders13
New on board
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2012 : 17:13:40
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| I'm new to all this, is Hans related to Gulbrand? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2012 : 17:22:36
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Hey Sylvia,
It seems very unlikely that your Hans Gilbertson is related to the original people sought in the post. Those folks left from Vestfold which is in southern Norway and Hans was from Finnmark way up at the tippy northern top of Norway. Apparently, Hans was an only child of his parents and was raised by his mother's mother who also eventually came to America.
But Hans may have other relatives in America. When Hans came to America his destination was his uncle, Edward Tronnes in Shelly Minnesota. I'm not sure which Edward Tronnes this is as there were several in the Clay Co / Norman Co area and its possible that Edward was an uncle by marriage rather than blood.
Ida was born in Minnesota but each of her parents came from Norway and we have found places in Norway for both of Ida's parents on forum.
Jackie M
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shenders13
New on board
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2012 : 17:38:42
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| Thank you. My Grandma, Hans eldest daughter, recently passed away so I was just curious about the origins of the family. I appreciate the help! :) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2012 : 18:51:41
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The 1920 US Census is interesting in that on the same page as Edward A Tronnes and wife Karen are the Redland family and Hans Gilbertsen who is listed as a servant to the Redland family. Here is the most likely Edward Tronnes.
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Edward Tronnes
Age: 69
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Shelly, Norman, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1869
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Karen Tronnes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2012 : 19:05:14
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Only seven families away is Hans living with the Redland family.
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Hans Gibberston
[Hans Gibberstoner]
[Hans Gillerstner]
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Shelly, Norman, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1913
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Jonas Redland 75
Karen Sofie Redland 57
Stella Redland 33
Rueben Redland 29
Ida Redland 27
Hans Gibberston 22 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/04/2012 : 00:02:23
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This marriage is from www.usgenweb.com Traill County, North Dakota page:
Tronnes, Edwarde A.
Olson, Pauline
10 Dec 1892
1 233
No Edward Tronnes' marriages at www.mncounty.com but 3 Edwin Tronnes' & none before or by 1913:
CLEARWATER C-24 12/10/1923 TRONNES, EDWIN
BLIX, EDNA
PENNINGTON 1-568 6/26/1916 TRONNES, EDWIN A RUNNESTRAND, TILLIE
HENNEPIN 03020348 6/24/1926 TRONNES, EDWIN E
EIDE, MARIE C
But there is this marriage at www.mncounty.com:
NORMAN 05-107 4/5/1902
TRONNES, E A
BENSON, KAREN |
Edited by - jkmarler on 29/04/2012 00:57:30 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 00:17:35
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Pauline Olson could have been Edward A Tronnes first wife. He is listed as a widower in the 1900 US Census.
Name: Edward A Tronnes
Age: 50
Birth Date: Mar 1850
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Shely, Norman, Minnesota
[Norman]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1869
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward A Tronnes 50
Bergit Tronnes 16
Arthur Tronnes 7
Constanse Moe 22
Noel Moe 6/12 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 00:21:08
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In the 1885 Minnesota Territorial and State Census Edward is married, wife is called Lena. Could be Pauline? But the marriage to Pauline did not occur until 1892??
Minnesota, Territorial and State Census, 1849-1905
Name: E A Tronnes
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Norman
Locality: Shelly
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Race: White |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/04/2012 00:23:52 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 00:33:15
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Here is the wife of E A Tronnes, no children are listed.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Census, 1849-1905
Name: Lena Tronnes
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Norman
Locality: Shelly
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 01:05:57
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
In the 1885 Minnesota Territorial and State Census Edward is married, wife is called Lena. Could be Pauline? But the marriage to Pauline did not occur until 1892??
Other similar book and page numbers are also 1892 for instance:
29 Nov 1892 1 223
The record is what it is... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 01:25:31
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Here are the 1871 to 1922 Tronnes deaths at the www.usgenweb.com page for Norman County:
Trones, Catherina Mar. 26 1898 1 1 74 93
Tronnes, Anders O. Nov. 26 1903 1 2 121 61
Tronnes, Bella Dec. 14 1910 1 2 123 126
Tronnes, Pauline O. Jan. 19 1895 1 1 70 61
Trunnes, Edvart Mar. 19 1922 1 3 138 79 Shelly Twp.
At that same site in the groom's list of Marriages 1882-1906 are these:
Tronnes, Alfred Hanson, Sina Mar 20 1905 5 431
Tronnes, E. A. Benson, Mrs. Karen Apr 05 1902 5 107
Tronnes, Haaken Anderson Halvorson, Hilda Oct 13 1887 2 40
So if Karen is the connection then she'll most likely have a different last name than Benson. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 29/04/2012 01:29:45 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2012 : 02:18:47
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Well E A Tronnes owned this piece of land whose western borders is North Dakota, so finding records on him in North Dakota seems quite conceivable.
U.S., Indexed County Land Ownership Maps, 1860-1918
Owner's Name: E A Tronnes
State: Minnesota
County: Norman
Town: Shelly
Year: 1910 |
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Gulbrand Gulbrandsen or Gilbert Gilbertson in ND
