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Borge
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Norway
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 Posted - 20/04/2008 : 08:59:05
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Games played by Hannah Parr passengers as reported 2nd. June 1868 Maurice Lenihan
.... On Sunday evening they passed the time in dancing on the quay at the dock; whilst each week evening on deck, they indulge in the national game of ¡§fox¡¨ a rather dangerous one apparently; and requiring nerve and muscular power. It is ¡§played¡¨ in this way:- two men lie supine on deck, head to head, with the right arm of one locked into the left arm of the other; each then raises a leg-one the right-the other the left and so continue until the heel of the one is caught in that of the other, when both pull as violently as possible-and pull, and pull, with legs thus locked until the weaker is thrown over, rendered altogether powerless. ...
It is called Rævkrok in Norwegian
About the Fox question: the word rævkrok is merged by the words ræv and krok. "Ræv" can have two meanings "fox" or "bottom" (to not use rude language) and "krok" has the meaning "hook" |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
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Posted - 26/04/2008 : 17:49:55
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Originally posted by Borge
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Originally posted by Borge
[quote]Originally posted by John Foley
Games played by Hannah Parr passengers as reported 2nd. June 1868 Maurice Lenihan
.... On Sunday evening they passed the time in dancing on the quay at the dock; whilst each week evening on deck, they indulge in the national game of ¡§fox¡¨ a rather dangerous one apparently; and requiring nerve and muscular power. It is ¡§played¡¨ in this way:- two men lie supine on deck, head to head, with the right arm of one locked into the left arm of the other; each then raises a leg-one the right-the other the left and so continue until the heel of the one is caught in that of the other, when both pull as violently as possible-and pull, and pull, with legs thus locked until the weaker is thrown over, rendered altogether powerless. ...
It is called Rævkrok in Norwegian
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Edited by - John Foley on 20/12/2008 08:40:09 |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
109 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2008 : 22:36:18
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Freshwater ice imports to Ireland from Norway
The rapid development of transport infrastructure and communication in Ireland during the 19th, Century railways, steam ships etc. allowed access to the English markets. Merchants touted for trade and guaranteed local payment on shipping. The butter, fish, and fresh meat export markets created a need for a reliable and constant supply of ice. It was possible to export from the Limerick and lower Shannon area produce which arrived in the London markets in good condition 24hours later. This increased value of land caused further pressure on the tenant farmers and the desire to clear land of tenants created its own bitterness.
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Edited by - John Foley on 30/12/2009 00:56:16 |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
109 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 01:03:33
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For Hannah Parr’ ites, The name Scattery Island, as in Scattery Roads, The Island was part of the Old Norse kingdom of Limerick and the lower Shannon area, it has been suggested that the name Scattery, which was an early Christian settlement and has a round tower and monastery comes from the Norse.
Skatten på Sjørøverøya
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Edited by - John Foley on 30/09/2009 10:51:59 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 14:21:42
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A fantastic and interresting story you have introdused and shared with us here in Norway Heritage John.
I am impressed of all the information.
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atle-unnimarie
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Posted - 30/05/2008 : 00:27:24
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A fantastic and interresting story you have introdused and shared with us here in Norway Heritage John.
I am impressed of all the information.
Kåre
I, and surely others, fully agree.
Each of Johns' inputs is voluminous, informative, and appreciated. It is for this reason that I feel he has earned MORE than the cumulative TWO stars and special member classification.
I get ONE posting credit for ONE simple posting. John gets ONE posting credit for ONE lengthly posting. This just does not seem quite fair.
Is it reasonable for Norway Heritage to make further consideration for, say, a 3:1 ratio per posting or some such other acceptable method?
Whatever the result of this query, your efforts are appreciated, John. |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
109 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2008 : 05:58:46
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Limerick the Norsemen or Northmen.
The eventual integration of the Norsemen and the Irish, which began so violently, was settled with a practical arrangement which allowed the two cultures to mix. Limerick which was founded in the mid-ninth century when the Norsemen built a fortified ship-shelter known as Inis Sibhton, in the lower reaches of the Shannon (Kings Island) at its confluence with the Abbey River. (present site of Saint Mary’s Cathedral.) The Norsemen who remained in Limerick intermarried and the Norse names of families and places are still to be found locally as elsewhere in Ireland.
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Edited by - John Foley on 30/12/2009 01:05:35 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/06/2008 : 08:58:15
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Apropo King Olav II Haraldsson of Norway , St. OLav, this song about London Bridge was according the Saga made by his poet Ottar Svarte (Ottar the black).
The story of London bridge is well documented here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/06/2008 10:32:55 |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
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atle-unnimarie
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 16:21:48
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Just perhaps a reader here would be interested to know that a replica of a Viking sea vessel is along the Liffy by Dublin right now. She, the "Sea Stallion from Glendalough', will set sail this Sunday, 6-29-08, passing the Cliffs of Dover en route to the crews Viking homeland.
Someone reading these missives of Ireland-Norway just may be close enough to see her set sail and/or attend the entire weekend festivities
A seven page story about this 98 foot vessel, hand crafted from hand crafted period tools and aquipment, and about Viking lore is in the July issue of the Smithsonian Magazine. |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
109 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2008 : 22:26:54
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The Sea Stallion from Glendalough departed safely today at 11:45. The crew rowed out into Dublin bay then hoisted sail, the weather held up though the forecast promises some snotty weather with a bit of a blow, its is possible to follow the progress of the Sea Stallion from Glendalough on its return to Roskilde. The original ship or one similar was used to transport King Harolds daughter, Gytha, from Dublin to the Roskilde court following the battle of Hastings.
Some shots of the departure this morning.
Hope they are of interest.
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/shipwrights/SeaStallionFromGlendalough |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/06/2008 : 23:45:27
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Nice shots taken this morning John.
An exiting ship the Sea Stallion, found in Skuldelev in Denmark in 1997 in a defence line in the shallow Roskildefjord discovered first in 1956.
The ship had been repaired several times until it was filled with stones and ended in these lines in 1075.
Sea Stallion was build in Ireland of oaks cut dow in 1042 in the Glendalough valley south of Dublin and the ship could have been partisiparting in the military operations after Hastings (1066) when queen Gytha (Torkelsdatter) and her sons had to flee to Dublin.
It could be a small possibility it was this ship Harald Godwinsson´s sons used when they sailed to Denmark in 1069 to get support from King Svein Estridsson who send a large fleet to England but the mission failed when the Normans managed to bribe Svens brother Earl Asbjørn (was outlawed in Denmark after that).
Source, this page in Norwegian.
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atle-unnimarie
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 30/06/2008 : 04:09:25
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John and Kare,
Thanks to the both of you for your comments and pictures. I find all this very thrilling and rewarding as well as informative.
Just moments ago before opening my E mail box while on E-bay I, as a Vassal, bid on a model of a Viking Vessel She is 14 1/2" x 7 1/2" x 4 1/2", silver plate on a 16"wood base, made in Bergen circa 1940-70, and signed H Aase (of Magnus Aase). No sails or oars, but beautiful. Your mailings are also beautiful, but are immeasureably rewarding.
While in the mood I must also bid on more Nordic items. Maybe a smaller ship made of brass or heavy cast resin and WITH sails and oars. Win some. Lose some. Back to the Bidding Board.
Some entrepreneur should make a model of the Sea Stallion. Hmmmm!
Thanks for your messages. |
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atle-unnimarie
Junior member
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Posted - 03/07/2008 : 11:17:51
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Drats. I did not win that Viking Vessel. A last second first time bidder on this item, but an experienced bidder surely, came out of the dark and beat my then winning bid. Drats. Win some. Lose some.
Thanks for your stories re Hannah Parr, Sea Stallion, and now the newest re the oldest (996 AD), longest (45+/- yards), and biggest (prox 600 crew) ever built by Norway. Fantastic. Keep it up. |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
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Posted - 29/10/2009 : 20:21:44
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The Limerick Civic Trust, Hannah Parr project, researchers have located the original death certification of the three Norwegian children interred in Limerick. The spelling may have suffered in transcription from the informant Nicolas Briuin M.D. on the Hannah Parr, and the then Limerick registrar of births and deaths.
To give a Norwegian perspective Clair Haugen has, as usual, been most generous of his time and advice with the ongoing Limerick Hannah Parr Project.
The Norwegian children are recorded as,
(1)Edward Ericksen, died on the 12th of May 1868
aged 9 months, Son of farmer, late of Valders in Norway
Cause of death is given as Fever of vaccination cough and diarrhoea (1 month.)
(2) Andrea Ericksdatter, died on the 13th. May 1868
aged 2 years, Daughter of farmer of Valders in Norway.
Cause of death is given as diarrhoea (4 Days)
(3) Helena Johannesdatter, died on the 24 of May 1868 aged 1 year, daughter of farmer late of Nas Hedesmarken Norway
Cause of death Diarrhoea (14 Days)
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