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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 16/10/2008 : 21:20:02
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I think the way forward would be to find Richard Frederick Boese(n), born about 1823.
Boe is quite a rare first name, but looks to be a more common name in Odal, Hedmark. I can not see that Boe Hansen & Marie Gudmundsdr had a son named Richard Frederick though.
There is also a couple Boe Olsen & Anne Olsdr in the same area, but no Richard Frederick found there either...
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2008 : 01:20:28
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Hi, Does anyone know what would be other forms of the name "Richard" in Norway or German Empire(German/Polish/Prussian)? Is "Berger" a christian name or does this refer to an occupation or personality or familial link by name?
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2008 : 14:07:54
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Hi
Can someone please clarify any variations of the name "Richard" in Norway or Poland/Germany?
Also is the name "Berger" a christian name in Norway or does it signify an occupation, personality or a family connection?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2008 : 14:27:22
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Berger could be a christian name, Birger is an alternative, so is Børger.
Examples of variations of Richard could be Rickard, Rickart, or Rikart. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2008 : 18:21:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Sheena Boese
Hi
Can someone please clarify any variations of the name "Richard" in Norway or Poland/Germany?
Also is the name "Berger" a christian name in Norway or does it signify an occupation, personality or a family connection?
Thank, Sheena.
Hi, Berger was his [Berger Boesen] christian name. His occupation was blacksmith.
The name is from the Old Norse name Birgir or Byrgir, and means helpful or (a) helper.
A more common spelling nowadays are Birger. Other variants are Berge, Børge og Børre.
These are the most popular spellings of "Richard" in the Norwegian 1865-census (No. of occurrences in ()):
Rikard 269
Richard 184
Rikkard 58
Ricard 50
Rikhard 42
Rikart 33
Richart 11
Rickard 10
Rikkart 9
Rikkert 6
Note that the names often was written as the census-taker heard it, or "thought" it should be spelled.
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 03:44:18
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Many Thanks for your replies. Sheena.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by Sheena Boese
Hi
Can someone please clarify any variations of the name "Richard" in Norway or Poland/Germany?
Also is the name "Berger" a christian name in Norway or does it signify an occupation, personality or a family connection?
Thank, Sheena.
Hi, Berger was his [Berger Boesen] christian name. His occupation was blacksmith.
The name is from the Old Norse name Birgir or Byrgir, and means helpful or (a) helper.
A more common spelling nowadays are Birger. Other variants are Berge, Børge og Børre.
These are the most popular spellings of "Richard" in the Norwegian 1865-census (No. of occurrences in ()):
Rikard 269
Richard 184
Rikkard 58
Ricard 50
Rikhard 42
Rikart 33
Richart 11
Rickard 10
Rikkart 9
Rikkert 6
Note that the names often was written as the census-taker heard it, or "thought" it should be spelled.
Jan Peter
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 13:39:39
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| I have never been able to access the Norwegian Emigrants 1825-1873 Passenger lists on this site as it jams up. Is this search option currently not available? If someone can access it for me I would be very grateful - looking for Charles Frederick Boese OR Charles Frederick Boes Or Carl Frederick Boes OR Carl Frederick Bøes OR Carl Frederick Boesen - all these variations particularly with the surname spellings. Sheena Boese. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 21:00:59
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Did you read the search tips?
Most important: You must enter a minimum of 3 characters divided on all fields, and all fields need to have an entry; e.g.:
Year: All
First Name: Show all
Patronymic: Show all
Farm/surname: Contains Boe
Year: All
First Name: Contains arl
Patronymic: Show all
Farm/surname: Show all
Year: All
First Name: Contains arl
Patronymic: Starting with Boe
Farm/surname: Show all
Year: All
First Name: Show all
Patronymic: Contains Boe
Farm/surname: Show all
etc...
Could not find any Boesen though...
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 22:29:50
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Hi Jan
Yes I did read through the tips and instructions, the link just jams up my computer. I have sat there for 10 minutes or more on occasion waiting for it to load and always have had to shut the site down. I think the surname will either be Boes (as that's what he used on NZ doc's) or Boesen.
Thank you for looking for me though. Sheena.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Did you read the search tips?
Most important: You must enter a minimum of 3 characters divided on all fields, and all fields need to have an entry; e.g.:
Year: All
First Name: Show all
Patronymic: Show all
Farm/surname: Contains Boe
Year: All
First Name: Contains arl
Patronymic: Show all
Farm/surname: Show all
Year: All
First Name: Contains arl
Patronymic: Starting with Boe
Farm/surname: Show all
Year: All
First Name: Show all
Patronymic: Contains Boe
Farm/surname: Show all
etc...
Could not find any Boesen though...
Jan Peter
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 22:41:22
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Hi Jan
I agree, my feeling however is that Richard Boese was maybe not born in Norway and possibly came from the German Empire as it was known then, the names of the Boes family listed on the website do not seem to tie in with any familial names in our branch of the family, however I have not discounted a link. I am going to do some research on the Martin Boesen that emigrated to NZ and see if I can find any links and check out specific shipping lists of the early 1870's into Wellington at NZ Archives. Thank you, Sheena.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
I think the way forward would be to find Richard Frederick Boese(n), born about 1823.
Boe is quite a rare first name, but looks to be a more common name in Odal, Hedmark. I can not see that Boe Hansen & Marie Gudmundsdr had a son named Richard Frederick though.
There is also a couple Boe Olsen & Anne Olsdr in the same area, but no Richard Frederick found there either...
Jan Peter
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 20/10/2008 : 23:00:44
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What is more strange is Carolyne Shannon Atkinson, that's definitively not a Norwegian name. Sounds very British to me.
Carolyne could be Caroline or Karoline in Norwegian, but there is no possibility that Shannon Atkinson could be Norwegian. Chances for that is close or equal to zero, If that name is European, it has to come from the Uk....
Have you ever seen these names in conjunction with Norway or Norwegian heritage?
Ships Carpenter Charles Frederick Boese, born 1850, emigrated to New Zealand abt. 1872, died 1882
Father Constable Richard Frederick Boese born abt. 1823
Mother Carolyne Shannon Atkinson
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 21/10/2008 : 05:22:34
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Hello Jan
I was given the name of Carolyne Shannon Atkinson by another family researcher in NZ a long time ago and cannot verify where it came from. Since posting on this site I have been keeping an open mind about its relevance. It sounds Irish in its Anglicised form but had also thought the same as you - Caroline/Karoline Atkinson which certainly could be Norwegian. The mens names are verified on documents that I have, other than that they may be somewhat anglicised. I am meeting with a family member this weekend who may be able to shed some light on this subject re Carolynne Atkinson. There is a census record in 1865 telling for 0301 Christianaia connected to Christopher Boes. (record13906) father of Martin, Carl & Julius with a Ingeborg Caroline Boetzmann as the kone husmoder aged 53 record 17149 in the same household??
Sheena.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
What is more strange is Carolyne Shannon Atkinson, that's definitively not a Norwegian name. Sounds very British to me.
Carolyne could be Caroline or Karoline in Norwegian, but there is no possibility that Shannon Atkinson could be Norwegian. Chances for that is close or equal to zero, If that name is European, it has to come from the Uk....
Have you ever seen these names in conjunction with Norway or Norwegian heritage?
Ships Carpenter Charles Frederick Boese, born 1850, emigrated to New Zealand abt. 1872, died 1882
Father Constable Richard Frederick Boese born abt. 1823
Mother Carolyne Shannon Atkinson
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 21/10/2008 : 08:26:12
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Her lastname Atkinson can not be Norwegian.
I can't think of any similar spelling variants that would make it sound Norwegian either..., it is a very British name.
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 03/02/2009 : 12:05:16
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My next research avenue forward for further information relating to Charles Frederick Boes(e) OR Carl Frederick Boes(e) is through the Seamans Register in Norway as his occuption is Ships Carpenter. Can anyone please advise me where I can obtain an experienced person in Norway to research this register for me?
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Boese - Charles Frederick Emigrated to New Zealand
