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Dave Eide
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 Posted - 09/07/2009 : 22:47:01
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| My grandfather Edvard B. Pettersen came from Trondheim, Norway to Georgeville, Minnesota in 1903. His fare was paid for by his cousin Hans Amundson who was living in Minnesota at the time. I have been trying to find a link between these two people but not having much success? I was hoping there might be someone who could put these two families together? My grandfather changed his name from Pettersen to Eide, the family does not know why? Thanks for any help you can offer. |
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Hopkins
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Dave Eide
Starting member
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 23:42:18
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| Edvard Benjamin Pettersen, age 20. Sorry about that. Another in my family has researched the family, it goes way back but no connection to an Amundson? And now the work begins. Thank you Hopkins for all the places to look. Dave |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 23:58:04
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To find the connection to Hans Amundsen we need to know the names of the parents.
The name Eide is coming from Aageide.
In 1900 Edvard B. lived on Aageide in Melø in Nordland County with his father Petter Kristian Eliassen and five younger siblings.
I think Gusta Pareli Iversen was his stepmother, she and Petter Eliassen married August 27.1891 in Rødøy, Edvard Benjamin was born on Tjong in Rødøy Oct.30. 1882, his mother was Karen Marie Ellingsdatter.
His cousins father was Amund (unknown lastname), he or his wife was either a brother/sister to Petter Kristian Pettersen or Karen Marie Ellingsdatter.
Do you know when Hans Amundsen was born or when he emigrated.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 10/07/2009 00:03:02 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 00:16:49
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Census-1900 list Hans Amundson as living in Crow River Township, Belgrade Village, Stearns county, MN.
He is born September 1864 in Norway, and emigrated about 1884. He married Anna in 1890. Anna is born May 1876 in Minnesota by Norwegian-born parents.
Census-1865 for farm Sneen in Melø sub-parish, Rødø parish, Nordland county:
Amund Johnsen 46
Maren Olsdatter 47 Rasmusdatter?
Jacobi Amundsdatter 8
Johan Amundsen 6
Hans Amundsen 1
Census-1875 list Hans Amundsen as born 1862 and a foster-son of widow Johanne Bertelsdatter on the Aag farm in Rødøy.
Johanna Dorthea Berthelsdatter, born 20 MAR 1818, Rødøy, Nordland, Father: Berthel Joensen
Johanna Dorthea Berthelsdatter (21) & Iver Sandberg Johannesen, Marriage: 21 OCT 1838, Meløy, Nordland
Hans A. Aag (19) from Melø emigrating to Wilmar, MN on 29 May 1884. He is listed together with 5 other Aag's from Melø.
His christening name is Hans Ovid, and he is born 25 OCT 1864.
His mother is listed as Maren Rasmusdatter in the chr record, while Maren Olsdatter in the census..
I believe Rasmusdatter must be her right patronymic, because that's what she's called in all the chr records for their other children as well:
Rasmus Claus Johan Amundsen, b. 02 JUL 1845, Meløy, Nordland
Sofie Eline Amundsdr, b. 20 JUN 1848, Meløy, Nordland
Anna Margrethe Amundsdr, b. 03 MAR 1852, Meløy, Nordland
Jacobi Schjoning Amundsdr, b. 27 OCT 1855, Meløy, Nordland
Johan Christian Amundsen, b. 24 JUL 1860, Meløy, Nordland
Amund Johan Johnsen Bolgen (27) & Maren Johanne Rasmusdatter Langnes (24)
Marriage: 17 JUL 1842, Meløy, Nordland
His father: John Amundsen
Her father: Rasmus Olsen
I can not see any obvious relationship between Hans and Edvard, other than that they both lived at the Aag farm(s) in Meløy. Hans looks to be adopted. The farmbook from the area "GÅRD OG GREND I MELØY" might reveal the relationship, and also what happened to his parents. Did they drown on the sea?
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 10/07/2009 11:02:45 |
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Dave Eide
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 02:50:51
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Information that we have collected. We hope this is all correct but there are some differences from what you have Jan? I have shared your information with the family, Jan, their response, "Bravo!" Thanks. Dave
1 Hans O. Amundson
Birth: Sep 1864, Norway
In June 1895 in Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota lived Hans-30 and Anna-28 and their kids Hilda-4, Mila-2 and a one month old son named Amandes (Alfred). Anna’s parents lived with them.
On June 21,1900 Hans-35 and Anna-34 lived in Belgrade Village, Stearns, Minnesota with Hilda-9, Amelia-7, Alfred-5 and Olof-3. Hans and Anna had been married for 10 years and all four of their children were then living. Hans emigrated from Norway in 1884. He was a farmer.
On June 9, 1905 Hans-40 and Anna-38 lived in Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota with Hilda-14, Nils-12, Alfred-10, Olaf-8, Eldon-4 and Hannah-1.
In 1920 Hans-56 andAnna-53 lived in Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota with Eldor-18, Hannah-15 and Alice-12.
In 1930 Hans-65 and Anne-61 lived in Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota. Hans was 26 when he married Anna who was 22. Their son Eldor-28 and his wife Elvina-22 who had been married for two years lived with them.
Spouse: Anne Gabrielson
Birth: 28 May 1867, Norway
Death: 25 Jul 1958, Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota
Father: Dedrick Gabrielson (1839-1912)
Mother: Alete Olson (1840-1923)
In 1920 Anna indicated she emigrated from Norway in 1890.
Marr: 17 Aug 1890, Stearns County, Minnesota
Children:
Hilda (1891-1976)
Amelia (1893-)
Alfred Heylund (1895-1963)
Olof (1897-)
Eldor John (1901-1962)
Hannah Albina (1905-1993)
Alice Ovina (1907-1984 |
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Dave Eide
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 03:55:45
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Jan Peter you have provided information about the parents of Hans - -
We didn't know about the 1875 Census, and would have jumped right over it - - -
There is no way we would have come up with his arrival in 1884 with the family Aag - - -
But we still haven't found the Aag family in the US Census, maybe the name changed somehow- -
We all thank for the information - -
So for those of us in the US we need to process your information for awhile - - - until later then..... all the best. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 10:55:53
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Hi,
the Aag family can be found in Belgrade village, Stearns, Minnesota, census-1900, as Pederson... 
Corneilson Pederson, born Norway Jun 1844, imm. 1884
Lavina Pederson, born Norway Oct 1848, mother of 6 children, 6 alive, imm. 1884, married ab. 1871
Alfred Pederson, born Minnesota Feb 1888
Conrad Pederson, born Minnesota Sep 1890
Lena Pederson, born Minnesota Aug 1892
The other 3 children are listed in the emigration:
Peder Aag (m), born ab 1873
Iverine Aag (f), born ab 1878
Leras Aag (m), born ab 1879
Kornelius, wife Lavine and son Peder (Per) are listed just below Hans Amundsen in census-1875 for the Aag farm.
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 10/07/2009 10:58:43 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 12:34:34
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Lavina Pederson is the daughter of Johanna Dorthea Berthelsdatter, who "adopted" Hans Amundsen, according to census-1875. So Hans could have recognized Lavina as his older sister.
Lavine Christine Iversdatter
Born: 12 Oct 1849, chr 05 May 1850, Meløy, Nordland, Norway
Parents: Iver Johannesen Aag & Johanna Bertuelsdatter
Cornelius Martines Pedersen Tyrhaug-Aag (27) & Lavina Christine Ivarsdatter Aag (22)
Marriage: 10 Sep 1871, Meløy, Nordland, Norway
His father: Peder Larsen
Her father: Ivar Sandberg
Note: Iver Sandberg Johannesen, Ivar Sandberg and Iver Johannesen Aag is the same person...
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 10/07/2009 13:07:06 |
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Dave Eide
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 15:28:24
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My grandfather's history as we know it, here is EB's Ahnentafel - -
Any additions and/or corrections greatly appreciated - - -
1 Edward Benjamin Eide. Born on 30 Oct 1882 at Tjong Øvre, Rødøy. Edward Benjamin died at Seattle, Washington, on 11 Feb 1964; he was 81.
2 Petter Christian Angel Eliassen. Born on 27 Sep 1855 at Mosvold, Meløy. Petter Christian Angel Eliassen died at Ågeide, Meløy, on 12 Jun 1911; he was 55.
3 Karen Marie Ellingsd. Born on 19 Oct 1848 at Tjong, Rødøy. Karen Marie Ellingsd. died at Våga, Rødøy, on 20 Sep 1884; she was 35.
4 Elias Larsen. Born ca 1825. Elias Larsen died at Mosvold, Meløy, ca 1860; he was 35.
5 Ane Johanna Pedersd. Born on 17 Aug 1823 at Offersøy, Alstahaug. Ane Johanna Pedersd. died at Ågenget, Meløy, on 19 May 1902; she was 78.
6 Elling Pettersen. Born in 1808 at Selstad, Meløy. Elling Pettersen died at Kila, Rødøy, on 16 Nov 1875; he was 67.
7 Christiana Monsd. Born in 1805 at Rødøy. Christiana Monsd. died at Rødøy aft 1877; she was 72.
8 Lars Larsen. Born in 1781 at Tiøtøe, Alstahougs.
9 Unknown. Born ca 1780.
10 Peder Christophersen. Born in 1789 at Tenden (Tendvalen).
11 Henricha Henrichsd. Born ca 1779 at Hamnes, Alstahaug.
12 Petter Thomassen. Born ca 1748 at Dahlen, Meløy. Petter Thomassen died aft 1801; he was 53.
13 Anna Sophia Pettersd. Born ca 1761. Anna Sophia Pettersd. died aft 1801; she was 40.
14 Mons Olsen. Born ca 1765 at Waadvigen, Rødøy, Nordland. Mons Olsen died at Grinvær, Rødøy, on 12 Apr 1838; he was 73.
15 Ane Larsd. Born ca 1777 at Rødøy.
16 Lars Eliassen. Born in 1756.
17 Ane Hallesd. Born in 1757.
20 Christopher Eliassen. Born ca 1747. Christopher Eliassen died at Tenden (Tendvalen), in 1810; he was 63.
21 Ingeborg Andersd. Born ca 1757.
24 Thomas Pettersen.
26 Petter Hansen. Born ca 1739 at Kjeldal, Meløy. Petter Hansen died at Kjeldal, Meløy, in 1786; he was 47.
27 Else Jacobsd. Born ca 1735 at Reppen, Rødøy.
28 Ole Pedersen. Ole Pedersen died bef 1799 at Waadvigen, Rødøy, Nordland.
29 Beret Bertelsd. Born ca 1741 at Waadvigen, Rødøy, Nordland.
56 Peder Hansen. Peder Hansen died in 1791 at Selsøyen Store, Rødøy, Nordland.
57 Marit Pedersd. Marit Pedersd. died in 1799 at Selsøyen Store, Rødøy, Nordland.
58 Bertel Bertelsen. Born in 1685 at Brevigen, Rødøy, Nordland. Bertel Bertelsen died at Waadvigen, Rødøy, Nordland, in 1769; he was 84.
59 Mallene Mortensd.
116 Bertel Bertelsen. Born in 1635. Bertel Bertelsen died aft 1701; he was 66.
117 Margrethe.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 18:05:38
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Hans Ovid Amundsen, born 25 OCT 1864. Parents: Amund Johan Johnsen Bolgen & Maren Johanne Rasmusdatter Langnes
Amund Johan Johnsen Bolgen (b. 1815). Parents: John Amundsen Bolgen & Jacobe Hendriksdatter
Maren Johanne Rasmusdatter Langnes (b. 1818). Parents Rasmus Olsen Sneen & Sophia Hendriksdatter
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eibache
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 21:59:07
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7 Christiana Monsd. Born in 1805 at Rødøy. Christiana Monsd. died at Rødøy aft 1877; she was 72.
Christiana was an "uægte" child bapt. Aug 11 1805, see 1st bapt. right page, her parents were Mons Olsen and Ane Larsdatter, Tiong.
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Dave Eide
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Posted - 10/07/2009 : 23:30:37
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Eibache, Thank you for your reply.
Numbers 14 and 15 pertain.
Jan Peter I sure wish I could read those Norwegian records you posted, totally lost but thankful for the help. Dave
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 11:21:01
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Originally posted by Dave Eide
Jan Peter I sure wish I could read those Norwegian records you posted, totally lost but thankful for the help. Dave
Those records are not so hard to read when you get familiar with them. For Lavine's chr record above; there are 9 columns, reading (from left):
Record Number - Date of birth - Date of christening - Name of child - Legitimate or illegitimate child - Name of Parents - Name of Godparents - Chr at home - Notes (e.g. if illegitimate child)
Lavine Christine Iversdatter's record reads:
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12th October
Do (i.e. ditto ("same as above"), see record 7; chr date is 5th May)
Lavine Christine
ægte (ie Legitimate child)
Gbr (farmer) Iver Johannesen Aag og (and) hustru (wife) Johanna Bertuelsdr.
You can also see the names of the Godparents, and that Lavine Christine was christened at home on the 26th (?) of October by Dorthea Nilsdr Aag. Under notes it says "konen introd", meaning that the wife Johanna Bertuelsdr was introduced back into the church comminity, probably on this date (May 5th)
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eibache
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 22:24:37
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6 Elling Pettersen. Born in 1808 at Selstad, Meløy.
Elling was confirmed in 1827, he was then 18 years old, see #9
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eibache
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 22:52:17
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| Ane Sophia Pedersdatter was confirmed 1780, see #5 on right page, she was then 17 years old. |
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Amundson and Pettersen links?
