All Forums | Main Page | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 NORWEGIAN GENEALOGY
 General genealogy
 Help with Martin's birth record
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

KnudsonFamily
Medium member

USA
186 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  03:04:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could someone help with the translation on Martin's birth record (#18)?
[http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&idx_listetype=dp&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

a portion of his obit reads:
quote:
Martin A. Mickelson was born on April 17, 1852, in Norway, and was the son of Arne and Ingeborg Mickelson.

Martin Death: Oct. 24, 1927 Wilmot, Roberts County, South Dakota

I'm actually tracking information on Arnes Mikkelson. He served in WI 49th company G during the Civil War.

Mary <><

eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  08:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martin (written Marin) was born out of wedlock April 17 and baptized May 20 1852, his parents were Arne Mikkelsen, Skarasætereie 20 years old and Ingeborg Monsdatter, Lien 22 years old.

Einar
Go to Top of Page

KnudsonFamily
Medium member

USA
186 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  08:58:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much.

I was wondering if there was any meaning behind the name being crossed out and Arne's name being added.

Arne's birth record

Arne's marriage record

Arne's migration record
Go to Top of Page

hasto
Senior member

Norway
294 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  09:42:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pastor probably wrote Mikkel Arnesen by a mistake and have corrected it to Arne Mikkelsen.

Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge
Go to Top of Page

eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  10:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arne Mikkelsen was born out of wedlock Oct 13 1832, see baptismal record # 48 at
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1825-1840), Fødte og døpte 1833, side 92-93.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9380&idx_id=9380&uid=ny&idx_side=-50.

His parents were Mikkel Arnesen, Storødegaardseie and Ingeborg Olsdatter, Skarasætereie.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 25/12/2011 11:06:11
Go to Top of Page

eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  10:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Martins bapt record there is a rather long note in the column where info on "uægte" children is given. Handwriting is bad and difficul to read, what I have seen so far is:
"Opgaven er i alt skeet af Barne Moderens Fader Thomas Reiersen Skarasæter skal wære den egentlige Barnefader der opgiver og - skal wære kiøbt dertil for 40 Spd.
Begges første Leiermål.
Han forteller Barnemoders Fader som er Maans Olsen Liabæklien."

Help to read this would be welcome.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 25/12/2011 11:57:06
Go to Top of Page

eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  11:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingeborg Monsdatter was born Jan 1 1830, see #8
at
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1825-1840), Fødte og døpte 1830, side 52-53.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9380&idx_id=9380&uid=ny&idx_side=-28, her parents being Mons Olsen, Stensætereie and Ingri Andersdatter.

Einar
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  12:02:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

In Martins bapt record there is a rather long note in the column where info on "uægte" children is given. Handwriting is bad and difficul to read, what I have seen so far is:
"Opgaven er i alt skeet af Barne Moderens Fader Thomas Reiersen Skarasæter skal wære den egentlige Barnefader der opgiver og - skal wære kiøbt dertil for 40 Spd.
Begges første Leiermål.
Han forteller Barnemoders Fader som er Maans Olsen Liabæklien."

Help to read this would be welcome.



Not so sure of the Norwegian but wasn't the point of paying someone to say they were the father of an uægte child to keep the true paternity from the pastor and other nosy neighbors? Or did Thomas Reierson pay to adopt the child?

Jackie M

Edited by - jkmarler on 25/12/2011 12:04:30
Go to Top of Page

KnudsonFamily
Medium member

USA
186 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  12:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martin came with Arne and Ingeborg and was raised around Arena, Wiisconsin. Around 1880 he moved to South Dakota.
Go to Top of Page

eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2011 :  14:08:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mikkel Arnesen was baptized July 20 1806, see confirmation record #8 at Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Sør-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1815-1826), Konfirmerte 1822, side 522-523.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9364&idx_id=9364&uid=ny&idx_side=-170.

His father was Arne Mikkelsen, Storødegaardseie. Mother not named.

Einar
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Norway Heritage Community © NorwayHeritage.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
Articles for Newbies:

Hunting Passenger Lists:

An article describing how, and where, to look for passenger information about Norwegian emigrants
    1:   Emigration Records - Sources - Timeline
    2:   Canadian Records (1865-1935)
    3:   Canadian Immigration Records Database
    4:   US arrivals - Customs Passenger Lists
    5:   Port of New York Passenger Records
    6:   Norwegian Emigration Records
    7:   British outbound passenger lists
 

The Transatlantic Crossing:

An article about how the majority of emigrants would travel. It also gives some insight to the amazing development in how ships were constructed and the transportation arranged
    1:   Early Norwegian Emigrants
    2:   Steerage - Between Decks
    3:   By sail - daily life
    4:   Children of the ocean
    5:   Sailing ship provisions
    6:   Health and sickness
    7:   From sail to steam
    8:   By steamship across the ocean
    9:   The giant express steamers
 
Search Articles :
Search the Norway Heritage articles

Featured article