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Etorger
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Posted - 26/12/2011 :  20:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am interested in obtaining information on the TORGERSEN family. IMy father, Arnt O. Torgersen was born and grew up in Norway and was a ship captain with Insbransten Steamship Company. He emigrated to the US in 1946 and married Mary Vail of Vernon Center, NY
Eric Torgersen

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 26/12/2011 :  21:08:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two things you should understand. Norwegian naming practices of earlier years AND the best kind of information to give to strangers when you want to ask for help in searching for ancestors.

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/12/2011 :  23:19:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Eric,

This may be your father in the 1910 Norwegian census online. If this is he, it shows his parents' names (or aunt and uncle) and several siblings and one set of grandparents:

http://da.digitalarkivet.no/ft/person/pf01036356003340/

This may be him awarded a commendation:
http://www.warsailors.com/singleships/segundo.html

Information about Arnt Olav Torgersen's wife who was lost in the sinking of the Segundo (same voyage that A.O.T. received his commendation for)

http://da2.uib.no/cgi-win/WebBok.exe?slag=lesside&bokid=vaarefalne4&sideid=408&storleik=

The marriage of the grandparents from the 1910 census link above, #37:
Source information: Østfold county, Glemmen, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1871-1878), Marriage records 1874, page 273.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=378&idx_id=378&uid=ny&idx_side=-208

The baptism of Arnt Olaf Torgersen, #15:
Source information: Østfold county, Spjærøy in Hvaler, Parish register copy nr. II 3 (1904-1917), Birth and baptism records 1906, page 18.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5465&idx_id=5465&uid=ny&idx_side=-19


The confirmation record of Arnt Olav Torgersen, #7:
Source information: Østfold county, Kråkerøy, Parish register copy nr. 1 (1908-1944), Confirmation records 1921, page 258.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=34&idx_id=34&uid=ny&idx_side=-258


Jackie M.
Edited by - jkmarler on 27/12/2011 05:43:51
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/12/2011 :  10:06:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptism of Arnt Olafs father Axel Teodor Torgeren, #38
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 7 (1864-1878), Fødte og døpte 1874, side 89.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5758&idx_id=5758&uid=ny&idx_side=-93

The baptism of Arnt Olafs mother, Olga Severine Olsdatter, #9
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 7 (1864-1878), Fødte og døpte 1872, side 66.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5758&idx_id=5758&uid=ny&idx_side=-70

The marriage of Arnt Olafs parents, #6
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler i Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1895-1906), Ekteviede 1900, side 173.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4117&idx_id=4117&uid=ny&idx_side=-149

The baptism of Arnt Olafs grandmother Thomine Alette Ougensdatter, #20
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Glemmen, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1838-1852), Fødte og døpte 1848, side 65.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=375&idx_id=375&uid=ny&idx_side=-68.

The baptism of Arnt Olafs grandfather Torger Torgersen, #27
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1846-1863), Fødte og døpte 1846, side 2.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=391&idx_id=391&uid=ny&idx_side=-6.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 27/12/2011 10:50:53
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/12/2011 :  10:14:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thomine Alette, her parents and siblings in 1865,
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f60132&gardpostnr=574&personpostnr=4454&merk=4454#ovre.

Torger Torgersen (Tørger Tørgersen), his parents and siblings in 1865,
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=f60111&gardpostnr=277&personpostnr=1524&merk=1524#ovre.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 27/12/2011 10:23:55
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Etorger
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Posted - 27/12/2011 :  18:14:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the great information!
Eric Torgersen
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts
Posted - 27/12/2011 :  23:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage of Ole Arnt Olsen and Amine Severine Arnesdatter, #3
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 7 (1864-1878), Ekteviede 1864, side 183.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5758&idx_id=5758&uid=ny&idx_side=-176.

The baptismal of Ole Arnt Olsen #6
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1816-1845), Fødte og døpte 1838, side 138-139.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7410&idx_id=7410&uid=ny&idx_side=-71

The baptism of Amine Severine #8
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1816-1845), Fødte og døpte 1839, side 146-147.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7410&idx_id=7410&uid=ny&idx_side=-75.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 28/12/2011 00:00:59
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 28/12/2011 :  10:36:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Torger Hansen was born 1811, see next to last record on right page
Kildeinformasjon: Vestfold fylke, Nøtterøy, Ministerialbok nr. I 3 (1791-1814), Fødte og døpte 1811, side 154-155.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8219&idx_id=8219&uid=ny&idx_side=-84.

Anne Sofie Aslaksdatter was born 1811, see 2nd record in 2nd column
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Hvaler, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1805-1816), Fødte og døpte 1811, side 18-19.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7409&idx_id=7409&uid=ny&idx_side=-12.

Birthe Thorine Petersdatter was born 1812, see 5th record in far right column
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Onsøy, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1733-1814), Fødte og døpte 1812, side 141.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7501&idx_id=7501&uid=ny&idx_side=-145.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 28/12/2011 11:12:04
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joniberg46
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Posted - 29/12/2011 :  12:15:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Etorger

I am interested in obtaining information on the TORGERSEN family. IMy father, Arnt O. Torgersen was born and grew up in Norway and was a ship captain with Insbransten Steamship Company. He emigrated to the US in 1946 and married Mary Vail of Vernon Center, NY


Hi,

My name is Jon Ivar Torgersen Berg form Alshus Fredrikstad. My grandfather Torger J. Torgersen served together with Arnt O. Torgersen on Segundo during WW2. As far as I know they grew up together on our farm "Alshus". Im not sure, but I`ve heard that three siblings including your father came form the Hvaler Islands due to some family issues an was raised by my great-grandfather Hans Oskar Torgersen and his wife. I have some old photos from the late 20s - early 30s that may be your father.

According to our neighbour Ingrid Andersen ”former: Martinsen” who knew your father, he visited a few times after he emigreated to America. She told me a few stories form his visits.
The Torgersen farm ” Alshus” is still in our family owned by my mother Reidun Elisabeth Torgersen Berg and uncle: Jon Torgersen. The farmland where developed for houses in the 70s and there is no farm activity today!
PS! I think my great-grandfather Hans Oskar Torgersen was Arnts uncle.

Jon Ivar Torgersen Berg
Jon Ivar T. Berg
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Etorger
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Posted - 29/12/2011 :  16:48:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jon----see my email sent earlier.

Eric
Eric Torgersen
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 30/12/2011 :  14:39:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joniberg46
Im not sure, but I`ve heard that three siblings including your father came form the Hvaler Islands due to some family issues an was raised by my great-grandfather Hans Oskar Torgersen and his wife.


Olga Sevrine, Arnt's mother, died in 1908, #6 on bottom half of page:

Source information: Østfold county, Kråkerøy, Parish register copy nr. Ga 0002 (1908-1952), Death and burial records 1908, page 203.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7365&idx_id=7365&uid=ny&idx_side=-127

And Aksel, Arnt's father, later the same year, #18 top half of page:

Source information: Østfold county, Kråkerøy, Parish register copy nr. Ga 0002 (1908-1952), Death and burial records 1908, page 204.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7365&idx_id=7365&uid=ny&idx_side=-128


Jackie M.
Edited by - jkmarler on 30/12/2011 14:42:39
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