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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 26/03/2012 :  09:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

It must be this Jenny Sofie who was burried in Vestre Fredrikstad. (FamilySearch writes death place Oslo, but this film-no also covers Vestre Fredrikstad.)
She was born May 17, 1886 as a child of Ole Peter Johanssen who was a "Sagarbeider" (sawmill worker).

No 38 almost at the bottom:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4896&idx_id=4896&idx_listetype=bg&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-96
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060718010416.jpg
Vivi
Edited by - vivi on 26/03/2012 09:21:07
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dsenk
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Posted - 26/03/2012 :  13:04:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much Vivi. Looks like my Jenny Sofie
Debbie
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 26/03/2012 :  13:04:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Family in 1910.
Note that last name is Johansen which is also the case in the marriage record and Ole Petters baptismal record.

Links to Ole Petter Johansen and Dina Margrete Gulbrandsdatters children:
Inga Marie, b July 3 1874 Østre Aker
#120 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5736&idx_id=5736&uid=ny&idx_side=-211
Olga Eleonore, b Sept 8 1878 Grønland
#253 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5790&idx_id=5790&uid=ny&idx_side=-34
Olaf Emanuel (Johannesen corrected to Johansen), b June 19 1881
#84 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4879&idx_id=4879&uid=ny&idx_side=-62
Dagmar Antonie, b Sept 8 1883
#194 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4879&idx_id=4879&uid=ny&idx_side=-99
Aagot Marie, b Dec 8 1886 (no link found – except for the 1910 census)
Eugen Bjarne, b July 4 1889 Kampen, d May 2 1896
#161 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5795&idx_id=5795&idx_listetype=dp&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-123
Borghild Elfrida, b Jan 22 1892 Kampen
#40 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5797&idx_id=5797&uid=ny&idx_side=-50
Einar Toralf, b Nov 26 1894 Kampen
#30 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5797&idx_id=5797&uid=ny&idx_side=-140
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 26/03/2012 16:10:35
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 26/03/2012 :  13:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Aagot Marie was bapitzed April 11, 1887 in Kampen.
No 36 bottom:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5795&idx_id=5795&uid=ny&idx_side=-28
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921050540.jpg
Vivi
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts
Posted - 26/03/2012 :  13:34:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Hjørdis is not the daughter of Ole and Dina. She is their granddaughter.

Hjørdis Elevine Margrethe was baptized in Kampen Sept 29, 1901 and is the daughter of Dagmar Antonie.

No 251:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=639&idx_id=639&uid=ny&idx_side=-150
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060227021028.jpg
Vivi
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/03/2012 :  14:00:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Something's gotta give...

Jenny Sofie's funeral record gives her birthdate as 17 May [18]86 and Aagot Marie is born 8 Dec 1886, creates a time difficulty unless Aagot Marie is exceedingly premature or Jenny Sofie belongs to another family....
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dsenk
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USA
47 Posts
Posted - 26/03/2012 :  14:15:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This gets more interesting all the time. I think that I will go with Jenny Sofie belonged to another family. But what i did not know was that Hjordis was Dagmar's daughter. Thats a shock. But not unbelievable since she was pregnant with my grandmother when she got married to my great grandfather. More stuff to fuel the searches. Thanks so much.
Debbie
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dsenk
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USA
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Posted - 27/03/2012 :  02:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vivi,

This record you sent. Can you read the far right column. I can't make it out. My mother says my great grandmother Dagmar was raped. Does this colum reflect that. Thanks
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=639&idx_id=639&uid=ny&idx_side=-150
Debbie
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/03/2012 :  08:00:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The far right column is for info about who performed the baptism at home or in case of an "uægte" child, who gave the info.

In this case it is written
"Anmeldt af Dina Johannesen. 1ste Gangs Leiermaal"
i.e. Dagmar Antonies mother gave the info about Dagmars first birth of the "uægte" child
.
Einar
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts
Posted - 27/03/2012 :  08:47:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Hjørdis married Alf (Olsen) Nystuen Sept. 3, 1927 in Kampen church.
No 69:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1833&idx_id=1833&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050830050329.jpg

She died Des. 26, 1975 and is burried at the cemetery Vesre Aker.
http://www.begravdeioslo.no/resultat/name/hjørdis%20nystuen/year_of_death/1975/year_of_death_uncertainty/1/sort_by_column/last_name/sort_order/1
Vivi
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 27/03/2012 :  09:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Dina Margrethe died March 1, 1927.
She left her husband and 5 children behind.
Her death was reported by her children: Aagot Johansen; Østre Aker and Einar Johansen, Tøiengt. 50.

No 359:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27314/22/
Vivi
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/03/2012 :  15:54:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kampen kirke, buildt 1882 info.

Grønland kirke, used before 1882 info.
Einar
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dsenk
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USA
47 Posts
Posted - 28/04/2012 :  00:37:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vivi, Can you translate the cause of death for Dina the the following link that you gave me.
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27314/22/
Debbie
Edited by - dsenk on 28/04/2012 00:38:20
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts
Posted - 28/04/2012 :  01:56:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

This is her probate and it doesn't tell cause of death.

Dina died March 1, 1927 and I believe she would have been burried from Kampen church. Unfortunately the Kampen church-book with 1927 burials has not been published yet.

The probate gives this information:
First column is about thedeceased :
"Mrs. Dina Margrethe 73 years old, died March 1, 1927 in Ensjøveien 1."
Second column is about those left behind:
"Husband master carpenter Ole Petter Johansen, same address as deceased and 5 children. Not separate property."
Third column is about who reported the death:
"Reported by her children: Aagot Johansen; Østre Aker and Einar Johansen, Tøiengt. 50."
Vivi
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dsenk
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Posted - 28/04/2012 :  02:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Vivi
Debbie
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