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eibache
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 Posted - 27/07/2012 : 08:26:55
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Jon Olsens Father was Ole Haagensen. His father was dead in 1865, but his mother was living with their oldest son Haagen Olsen. The mother was Ingeborg Johnsdatter, see 1865.
According to the confirmation record Jon Olsen was born Febr 20 1840, see #4.
Jon Olsens parents, Ole Haagensen, Aaker and Ingeborg Johnsdatter, Skisol were married Jan 24 1830, see #4.
Ole Haagensen, his parents, Haagen Guttormsen and Anne Olsdatter, and his siblings in 1801.
Ingeborg Johnsdatter, Skisol were baptized Dec 10 1809, see middle of left page.
She was born Nov 30 1809 and her parents were Jon Jensen and Jonetta Erichsdatter.
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eibache
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Posted - 27/07/2012 : 18:21:31
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According to the marriage record Georgine Parelius was born in Trondhjem and was 27 years in 1865, i.e. born approx 1839. In the 1865 census she is recorded as Nilsdatter and 28 years old, born approx 1838. Her father should then be Niels Parelius.
In the intent to get married the possible candidate Niels Rosing Parelius was a bachelor and commercial clark, son of Vicar Rasmus Parelius. See here.
If he was Georgine Parelius father Georgine must have been born out of wedlock, she is not mentioned in this tree.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 07:59:46
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Originally posted by carolchapman
Thank you. How do I get to the Digitalarkiverket site and are they all in Norwegian. I have googled it but had no luck as all of them are norway-heritage site answers
Contributor Hopkins in the 2nd post in the topic linked to gives many excellent pointers and web addresses to help a beginner in Norwegian research:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5472
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carolchapman
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 10:35:24
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Thanks very much - I appreciate your help
Carol
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by carolchapman
Thank you. How do I get to the Digitalarkiverket site and are they all in Norwegian. I have googled it but had no luck as all of them are norway-heritage site answers
Contributor Hopkins in the 2nd post in the topic linked to gives many excellent pointers and web addresses to help a beginner in Norwegian research:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5472
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carolchapman
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 10:54:57
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Thaks for your reply - I am busy sifting through it all today.
Could Georgine's mother be Martha Margrethe Lund - see post by Kåarto on 27 Jul which would mean that Nils Rosing Parelius twice, or do you think she was more than likely born out of wedlock ()and are Niels and Nils Parelius 2 different people)
Best Regards
Carol
quote]Originally posted by eibache
According to the mariage record Georgine Parelius was born in Trondhjem and was 27 years in 1865, i.e. born approx 1839. In the 1865 census she is recorded as Nilsdatter and 28 years old, born approx 1838. Her father should then be Niels Parelius.
In the intent to get married the possible candidate Niels Rosing Parelius was a bachelor and commercial clark, son of Vicar Rasmus Parelius. See here.
If he was Georgine Parelius father Georgine must have been born out of wedlock, she is not mentioned in this tree.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 14:20:01
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Here is Georgine's inmoving (inflytted) record at Aasen Frosta dated 30 Nov 1862, #12:
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Åsen i Frosta, Ministerialbok nr. 713A07 /2 (1850-1877), Inn- og utflyttede 1861-1862, side 566.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16990&idx_id=16990&uid=ny&idx_side=-191
Where is Bjørdalen or Kjørdalen or Stjørdalen, or pastor Wexalien? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 15:28:11
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Stjørdal
Pastor Wexelsen (Wilhelm Andreas Wexelsen) Chaplan in Hitteren (Hitra) from 1854, pastor in Øvre (Upper) Stjørdal/Stjørdalen from 1864-70.
Perhaps Georgine Nilsdatter Parelius was born on Hitra Jackie.
Your turn to look for her
Perhaps her parents were merchant Nils Rosing Parelius and Martha Margrethe Lund who married 1829.
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carolchapman
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 23:14:57
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Thanks very much. I find it very difficult to decipher the writing on these records so don't actually pick up very much.
I have been searching for Georgine and it just seems as if she doesn't exist. Is it possible she was adopted, in which case she wouldn't show up this families birth records. In South Africa if a child is born out of wedlock they are registered in the mother's name and not the father. If this is the case I suppose it's possible that we'll never know.
Best Regards
Carol
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is Georgine's inmoving (inflytted) record at Aasen Frosta dated 30 Nov 1862, #12:
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Åsen i Frosta, Ministerialbok nr. 713A07 /2 (1850-1877), Inn- og utflyttede 1861-1862, side 566.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16990&idx_id=16990&uid=ny&idx_side=-191
Where is Bjørdalen or Kjørdalen or Stjørdalen, or pastor Wexalien?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 00:41:14
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Very confusing reg. Georgine and her father Nils Parelius.
You will find Georgines parents one day, believe me.
This is what I have on two persons named Nils Rosing Parelius and (Nils) Parelius:
1) Merchant Nils Rosing Parelius married Martha Margrethe Lund 1829 in Ørlandet municipality, his father was Rasmus Brochman Parelius, see here.
Following children all born in Hitra municipality ; Rasmus 1831, Hans 1833, Margrethe 1835, Knud 1838, Cato 1843.
2) Bachelor Nils Rosing Parelius married Ellen Gram in Nidaros Cathedral, Trondheim town, 1840. His father was Rasmus Parelius, #5.
3) Georgine b. March 21. 1838 in Bakklandet sub parish in Trondheim town.
Parents (Nils) Parelius and Gjertrud Johnsdatter.
For reasons I do not know the bap. records from 1817-77 for Bakklandet are not online, but exist in the LDS records, see here
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carolchapman
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 00:47:58
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Thanks so much. I am sleepy now so will see what I can find tomorrow.
You and your colleagues are amazing. The time and effort you put in to help beginners like me is wonderful
Best Regards
Carol
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Very confusing reg. Georgine and her father Nils Parelius.
You will find Georgines parents one day, believe me.
This is what I have on two persons named Nils Rosing Parelius and (Nils) Parelius:
1) Nils Rosing Parelius married Martha Margrethe Lund 1829 in Ørlandet municipality, his father was Rasmus Brochman Parelius.
Following children all born in Hitra municipality ; Rasmus 1831, Hans 1833, Margrethe 1835, Knud 1838, Cato 1843.
2) Bachelor Nils Rosing Parelius married Ellen Gram in Nidaros Cathedral, Trondheim town, 1840. His father was Rasmus Parelius.
3) Georgine b. August. 19. 1838 in Bakklandet sub parish in Trondheim town.
Parents (Nils) Parelius and Gjertrud Johnsdatter.
For reasons I do not know the bap. records from 1817-77 for Bakklandet are not online, but exist in the LDSrecords
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 00:58:40
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Hi,
The records for Bakklandet up until 1846 may be stored in Strinda, see copy of the notes on the film number associated with the Georgine baptism you linked to:
"Contains parish registers from Bakklandet (Bakke) parish. Included Lademoen parish until 1908. Were separated from Strinda clerical district in 1846. For earlier records see Strinda clerical district."
To Strinda I shall go!
Here is her baptism, she is illegitimate but it appears her father is" ungkarl", #34. I'll leave interpretation to those better with the Norwegian than mine:
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Bakke in Strinda, Parish register (official) nr. 604A03 (1818-1850), Birth and baptism records 1839, page 23.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16282&idx_id=16282&uid=ny&idx_side=-43
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jkmarler
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eibache
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 07:44:34
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The parents of Georgine Parelius, who was born out of wedlock and baptized Aug 19 1838, was bachelor and commercial clark Parelius and Gjertrud Johnsdatter.
The info in the baptismal record is that the father was working at Høg & Co and that Georgine was the mothers second child born out of wedlock.
It is reasonable to conclude that the father is the commercial clark Niels Rosing Parelius who married Elen Gram in 1840 - ref the intent to get married top left page. Niels was born 1824 1814 in Hevne parish and his father was vicar Rasmus Parelius.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 09:50:36
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Very confusing reg. Georgine and her father Nils Parelius.
You will find Georgines parents one day, believe me.
3) Georgine b. March 21. 1838 in Bakklandet sub parish in Trondheim town.
Parents (Nils) Parelius and Gjertrud Johnsdatter.
For reasons I do not know the bap. records from 1817-77 for Bakklandet are not online, but exist in the LDS records, see here
Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 09:52:52
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Hi,
Here is her baptism, she is illegitimate but it appears her father is" ungkarl", #34. I'll leave interpretation to those better with the Norwegian than mine:
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Bakke in Strinda, Parish register (official) nr. 604A03 (1818-1850), Birth and baptism records 1839, page 23.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16282&idx_id=16282&uid=ny&idx_side=-43
You did not have to wait long to find Georgine
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