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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 23/12/2012 :  00:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptismal record for Emil Jakobsen is #15.

His siblings from the 1900 census was:
Arnt Julius, born April 30 1887, #37,
Hilda Marie, born Sept 29 1889, #49,
Hans, born Nov 15 1891, #96, and
Anna, born Oct 7 1894, #94.

Their parents were married Nov 8 1880, see #20.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 23/12/2012 12:36:30
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sjacob
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USA
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Posted - 29/12/2012 :  20:10:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you and Happy New Years.

As you have found, my grandfather Emil, came to the US in 1906, 1909, and finally in 1913. I still would like to know when he returned to Norway from the 1906 and 1909 trips. It would help me to track him here in the United States. I know where he went when he and my grandmother, Dagny came in 1913.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/12/2012 :  02:22:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apparently, he was in America for the 1910 census, living in Minneapolis, Minnesota:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M25W-WFH

If he had been in Norway during Norway's 1910 census, there was a "special" set of questions put to repatriated Norwegians as in when they came to America, how long did they live there, where, etc.

If this Emil is yours, you could look into Minneapolis city directories to see when he began appearing. For instance, here is the 1909 city directory for Minneapolis online at distantcousin with a listing of Emil Jacobson a cabinetmaker:

http://distantcousin.com/directories/mn/minneapolis/1909/Pages.asp?Page=0804

The Minnesota Historical Society probably has a complete set of the Minneapolis directories.

Did your Emil attempt to become a citizen of the US? Those kind of files in the era of the 19teens and more modern dates have a tendency to have a lot of information about the potential citizen's travel to US.

Did he take a homestead? Homestead files often contain information about the movements of the person seeking the homestead, attestations as to their residence claims etc by their neighbors.

Did Emil die in Washington state and if so, do you know the date? Washington State Library as an obituary search offer through their Ask a Librarian program. Obituaries often contain mentions of moves and residences, etc.

As far as I've seen there is no mass keeping of records in Norway of folks landing in Norway.

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/12/2012 02:28:50
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sjacob
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Posted - 20/02/2013 :  22:46:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for all your help and information on my grandfather, Emil Jacobsen.

I know he made a trip to the US in January of 1909. I know his agent was Victor Raffel and the ship to Hull, England was the SS Oslo. From there I cannot find a passenger list for him , the ship, or where he entered the US. His birth date is 2-1-1885.

Can you help.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2013 :  23:13:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This info was already given on the previous page.

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Emil Jacobsen
Arrival Date: 23 Jan 1909
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Last Residence: United States of America
Birthplace: Lillestron, Norway
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sjacob
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Posted - 21/02/2013 :  17:02:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry about that. It's hard to keep track of everything. How can I find the Boston Passenger and Crew Lists for my grandfather's 1909 voyage. I have the Ellis Island website. Is there a website for Boston arrivals?
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2013 :  18:51:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943

Jan Peter
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sjacob
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Posted - 17/03/2013 :  21:50:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I have previously learned through this forum and other research my grandmother, Dagny Eugenis, was born in Lillestrom on 7June 1888. Her father, Halvor's last name is Kristiansen in some places but on the 1900 census his last name is listed as Spikseth. This has been a question our family has never understood. Dagny's brother's are listed in other places with a last name of Halvorsen. So, was my grandmother's last name Spikseth or Halvorsen? Is there any way you could explain this to me.

Thank you


Susan Jacobsen
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 17/03/2013 :  22:09:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The classic form of the Norwegian name has three parts, the given or first name, the patronymic or last name derived from one's father's given name, and then the farm name which represents your address.

For those following the practice if you move from one farm to another you drop the "old" farm address for the "new" farm address.

So a person would have a different farm name at many different times during their lifetime. But in most cases you are always your father's child.

American customs differ. We inherit our last (or sur) name from our father's last name (mostly). Many Norwegians followed the traditional classic form until 1923 when the law was passed requiring a Norwegian to find a name and stick with it. Other Norwegians were inheriting their lastnames before that--just depends.

If Halvor was her father, then traditionally speaking, Dagny would be Dagny Halvorsdatter.

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sjacob
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Posted - 19/07/2013 :  20:22:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a reply to a posting dated 23 Dec 2012 regarding my grandfather Emil Jakobsen. The reply states his sister Anna was born Oct 7, 1894 according to the 1900 census (born in Lillestrom, Norway. Since she is the only sibling that did not come to America, I am interested in finding her date of marriage and any children.

Thank You

Susan Jacobsen
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 19/07/2013 :  21:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sjacob

As I have previously learned through this forum and other research my grandmother, Dagny Eugenis, was born in Lillestrom on 7June 1888. Her father, Halvor's last name is Kristiansen in some places but on the 1900 census his last name is listed as Spikseth. This has been a question our family has never understood. Dagny's brother's are listed in other places with a last name of Halvorsen. So, was my grandmother's last name Spikseth or Halvorsen? Is there any way you could explain this to me.

Thank you

Susan Jacobsen



Hi.
Some of this info exist in page 1.

1900 census for Lillestrøm tells that the whole family to Halvar/Halvor Kristensen born in Søndre Odalen in Hed (Hedmark) 1847 used last name Spikseth.

Søndre Odalen 1865;
Halvor Christensen age 18 served on vestre (Western) Spigset

Sør Odal (Søndre Odalen)

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 20/07/2013 00:39:35
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Kåarto
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Posted - 19/07/2013 :  21:30:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can try to find out later this evening on what farm Halvor was born, perhaps on Spigseth?

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 19/07/2013 :  22:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Halvors conf. record from Sept. 28. 1862 tells he was born on farm Ullerholen Feb. 2. 1848.
Parents; Christian Sørensen and Anne Hansdatter, see #74
Halvor was vacc. against smallpox 1850.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 19/07/2013 22:21:48
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 19/07/2013 :  22:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sjacob

This is a reply to a posting dated 23 Dec 2012 regarding my grandfather Emil Jakobsen. The reply states his sister Anna was born Oct 7, 1894 according to the 1900 census (born in Lillestrom, Norway. Since she is the only sibling that did not come to America, I am interested in finding her date of marriage and any children.

Thank You

Susan Jacobsen

I find these people buried at Stalsberghagen, Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway. This is in the Lillestrøm area.
They are buried next to each other. Actually, Georg is buried in the same plot at Arthur.

Anna Karlsen (07 Oct 1894 - 14 May 1976)
Arthur Karlsen (04 Sep 1894 - 10 Apr 1960)
Georg Riberg Karlsen (11 Dec 1924 - 05 Mar 2002)

#20 Georg
Born 10 Dec 1924
Chr 15 Mar 1925, Lillestrøm in Skedsmo, Akershus
Parents: (Lokomotivpusser "locomotive cleaner") Karl Arthur Karlsen & Anne nee Jakobsen
Residence: Strandgata 18
Source: Akershus county, Lillestrøm in Skedsmo, Parish register copy nr. III 2 (1917-1931), Birth and baptism records 1925, page 105.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 19/07/2013 22:56:50
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/07/2013 :  00:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The name Spigseth was probably coming both Halvor Kristiansen and his wife Oline Larsdatter.
She was born on the another Spigset farm.

Sør Odal 1865:
Oline Larsdatter 14 on Spigset vestre with 4 brothers and her mother, farmer and widow Olea Olsdatter link

Kåre
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