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carl johnson
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  18:10:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello all-

I know this is a Norwegian Heritage website, but if anyone is willing,
and "if" it is allowed in this miscellaneous forum, I need some help
trying to trace back my Great Grandparents in Denmark.

I believed that I had found the correct ancestors back to the late 1700's

I was wrong. The help that I received in the the Norwegian genealogy thread from jkmarker, and Einar and mostly Kåre was amazing!

With what I was able to learn about how information is collected,
I discovered my previous work was wrong in the Danish census
of 1880.

I did find the correct Allexander Victor Møller, age 16 of Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, Århus Købstad 3, , 174/fiskergade, 102, FT-1880

and the correct Ella Marie Olsen age 18 of Aarhus, Ning, Viby, Viby Sogn, , Marselisborg, 12, FT-1880

I tried creating a direct link to each person but was not successful-
here is one to the general website-http://www.ddd.dda.dk/

I also found some sort of reservation for travel to New York.
http://ddd.dda.dk/udvandrer/udvandr_soeg_uk.asp?navn=&stilling=&alder=&sidste_oph_sted=&s_sogn=&s_oph_amt=&best_by=&best_stat=&best_land=&kontraktens_nr=496200&aar=&maaned=

Name: Møller, Alex V. Occupation: Skomager
Age: 28 Destination: N.Y.
Contract no.: 496200 Registration date: 6/29/1891
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Århus Last res. county: Århus
Last residence: Aarhus Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I9192M0213

Name: Møller, Ella Marie Occupation: Hustru
Age: 30 Destination: N.Y.
Contract no.: 496200 Registration date: 6/29/1891
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Århus Last res. county: Århus
Last residence: Aarhus Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I9192M0214

Name: Møller, Louis Occupation: Barn
Age: 03 Destination: N.Y.
Contract no.: 496200 Registration date: 6/29/1891
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Århus Last res. county: Århus
Last residence: Aarhus Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I9192M0215

Name: Møller, Olga Occupation: Barn
Age: 00 1/2 Destination: N.Y.
Contract no.: 496200 Registration date: 6/29/1891
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Århus Last res. county: Århus
Last residence: Aarhus Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I9192M0216

Louis and Olga were children born Denmark or possibly
Holsteen?
I was not able to find any information other than this. If anyone is willing or able to help, I am most thankful.

This Danish side is the one that married my Norwegian side when they arrived in Bellingham, Washington, USA

Thank you-

Carl

carl johnson

carl johnson
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  19:30:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the Danish language more similar to Norwegian than any other language?

Carl

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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  19:46:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Comparison of Norwegian Bokmål and Standard Danish


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carl johnson
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  19:56:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you

Carl

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Comparison of Norwegian Bokmål and Standard Danish


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carl johnson
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  20:18:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One trick I did learn that you all may already know is that google translate sometimes works better set for Norwegian to English
Instead of Danish to English when I am trying to translate work
occupations or house position in the Danish archives!

Carl

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Originally posted by jwiborg

Comparison of Norwegian Bokmål and Standard Danish


Jan Peter


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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  22:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Allexander Victor, his parents and siblings in 1880.
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Carl Wilhelm Chr. Møller 48 Gift Husfader Holsteen
Anne Kirstine Møller 37 Gift Hans Kone Helgenæs
Marie Magdalene Møller 18 Ugift Deres Datter Aarhus
Allexander Victor Møller 16 Ugift Deres Søn Aarhus
Carl Vilhelm Møller 11 Ugift Deres Søn Aarhus
Lissette Dagmar Møller 7 Ugift Deres Datter Aarhus
Anne Kirstine Møller 6 Ugift Deres Datter Aarhus
Gjeulf Christian Møller 2 Ugift Deres Søn Aarhus
Johan William Møller Under 1 Ugift Deres Søn Aarhus

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 04/03/2013 22:15:51
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carl johnson
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  22:19:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you-

This one and the emigration manifest were the only evidence I was able to find in any sources at all-

An interesting spelling of "Allexander" I wonder if it is a miss spelling
or the way it originally was spelled-

I searched both ways and came up empty-

Thank you Einar-

Carl

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Allexander Victor, his parents and siblings in 1880.



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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  23:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elle Marie Olesen was born May 22 1861 in Sjelle, Aarhus.
Her parents were carpenter Ole Jensen and Kirsten Laarsdatter, Sjellemark.

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carl johnson
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Posted - 04/03/2013 :  23:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you
I will input that info in the database and see what comes up-

Thank you-

Carl

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Originally posted by eibache

Elle Marie Olesen was born May 22 1861 in Sjelle, Aarhus.
Her parents were carpenter Ole Jensen and Kirsten Laarsdatter, Sjellemark.



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carl johnson
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2013 :  18:54:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With the new info I was able to look in the database and find
Ella's grandparents on her mothers side 1750's era-

Thank you so much Einar!

That was the bridge I was missing to find more
of the Danish side-

I am still trying to find info for Holsteen and Allexander Victor Moller
on his fathers side. I found some things in "familysearch.org including his parents marriage and his mothers christening
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FKHX-76L
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYZ3-41M
I am not a subscriber to the familysearch website but sometimes I can get info that leads to the census database.

Thank you again Einar for your help yesterday-

Carl



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Originally posted by carl johnson

Thank you
I will input that info in the database and see what comes up-

Thank you-

Carl

quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Elle Marie Olesen was born May 22 1861 in Sjelle, Aarhus.
Her parents were carpenter Ole Jensen and Kirsten Laarsdatter, Sjellemark.





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