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HelenGraves
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Posted - 28/07/2013 :  21:08:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quebec was the port of entry for many Norwegians who ended up in Wisconsin, Minnesota, etc.

How did they travel after leaving the ship at Quebec?

My grandmother arrived in 1898 age 19 by herself. Somehow she got from Quebec to Minnesota where her father had immigrated 2 years before.

jwiborg
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Posted - 28/07/2013 :  22:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By train. See also this topic.

Jan Peter
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DAJohnson
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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  21:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Helen,
I asked a similar question but only ... how did my husband's relatives- wife & son- get to La Crosse Wisconsin. I was given some excellent help, information and maps that I HOPE I can copy to you here.
Tried...
Unfortunately, the maps did not transfer from the Forum on "John Johnson Helfstad" which is almost number 100 of the forums listed, page 7 which you might take a look at.
Darlene Johnson

jwiborg
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Posted - 25/06/2013 : 02:00:00
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HERE WAS A MAP OF THE SHIPS THAT BROUGHT JOHN & FAMILY TO QUEBEC. (SEE FORUM)
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Neat map! Need a third red line though...
The trip from Quebec to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, would be by a third ship, I take it...As yet still unknown.
Then the information about their arriving in Milwaukee Wisconsin on the Hero is wrong, and explains the conflict of the dates...(arriving in Milwaukee before arriving in Quebec).
And the information gleaned from an earlier posting saying the passage was paid for in America that went along with it ,,, would that be wrong too??? Or, since they took the train across England, perhaps there was something similar from Canada to her destination, La Crosse, Wisconsin...

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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/06/2013 : 10:55:49
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Originally posted by JaneC
NOTE: It seems Jan Peter and I were posting at the same time. :D

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No worries. Thanks for the link to the 1869 map of the Allen Line route. I wasn't aware of that the ships went through the Strait of Belle Isle when headed for Quebec, but it is of course a much shorter route, than going south of Newfoundland.

This article; Concerning Emigration?, was posted in the Norwegian "Billed-Magazin" in spring of 1869.
It decribes several routes to the west, and how to cross Lake Michigan.

See also this topic.

By 1870, I'm not sure if Chicago could be reached by train from Quebec?

1887 map of Grand Trunk Railroad
(HERE WAS ANOTHER MAP THAT IS IN THE FORUM BUT DID NOT TRANSFER HERE)

Read more about the Grand Trunk Western Railroad here.

The norwegian record for Helene Hansdatter says that her ticket was paid for in America, so that is most definitely correct. Her family didn't have funds enough to pay for all 3 tickets, so Johan Jensen Skjefstadeie emigrated first, and started working in America to begin saving up money to pay for the tickets for his wife and child. A woman in Norway without paid income (e.g. housewife) would have problems paying for such a ticket herself. Close relatives in America would work for months, sometimes up to a year, before they could go to the agency and prepay a ticket. The same agency had offices in Norway, and would be informed about the payment.

Read more about the Allan Line (which S/S Hibernian was a part of) here.

Jan Peter

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DAJohnson
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Posted - 25/06/2013 : 20:35:59
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Really good articles, especially -- Concerning Emigration? Good information all in all. Thank you! And the Grand Trunk Railroad route makes sense for Helene.

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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/06/2013 : 22:01:57
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I'm a bit confused after reading the "Concerning Emigration" article from 1869 again. I can't find any other article on the internet that says that there was a railway connection between Port Huron and Chicago in 1870.

List of Michigan railroads
Grand Trunk Railway history

1855: Quebec - Montreal was connected.
1856: Montreal - Toronto was connected.
1859: Toronto - Sarnia was connected, incl a ferry service across the St. Clair River to Port Huron.
1880: Port Huron - Chicago was connected.

See also this article; Immigrants to Canada



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jwiborg
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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  21:30:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a direct link to the topic Darlene Johnson talks about.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 31/07/2013 21:31:33
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