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skgillett
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 Posted - 04/09/2013 : 16:15:51
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Found my great grandfather Isaac Nelson from Bramble Telemark birth record 6 Jan 1853 at the bottom page 360 line 27 Parish Birth Record: But I need help figuring out the names of Isaac (Izak) parents and his full birth name. Handwriting in Norwegian is proving more than I can decipher. Am sending this out to Norwegian forums in hopes that someone can help me or refer me to some site that can help reading handwritten norwegian entries
Source information: Telemark county, Bamble, Parish register (official) nr. I 4 (1834-1853), Birth and baptism records 1853, page 360-361.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051012010624.jpg - line 27
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Source information: Telemark county, Bamble in Bamble, Parish register copy nr. I 5 (1814-1855), Birth and baptism records 1853, Marriage http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061201020699.jpg - line 27
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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 17:24:13
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Parents: husmand Niels Gundersen and wife Anne Carine Isaksdtr Bamble _____(not sure what that last is)
Faddernes / Godparents: Else Torkelsdtr, Maren Halvorsdtr Bamble, Ole and Amund Halvorsons Skougen, Gunder Nielsen Ninset (?) |
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skgillett
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 17:44:25
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thank you...thank you....thank you....really appreciate your answer and this forum which I just happened to find yesterday.....
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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:16:02
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The last is an abbr. (Not readable to me) for the location of farm Bamble in the parish. Eiet.
Farm Bamble belonged to Nenseth School district, Bamble main parish.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 04/09/2013 20:48:51 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:27:18
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From beeing "Husmand" Cottager on farm Bamble when Isac was born Niels Gundersen bought his ovn farm, Heivanne, from farm Bamble before 1865.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 04/09/2013 18:45:23 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:16:53
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Parents: husmand Niels Gundersen and wife Anne Carine Isaksdtr Bamble _____(not sure what that last is)
Bamble=Eiet.
Bambleeiet was a small holding under the main Bamble farm.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 20:16:18
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Parents: husmand Niels Gundersen and wife Anne Carine Isaksdtr Bamble _____(not sure what that last is)
Bamble=Eiet.
Bambleeiet was a small holding under the main Bamble farm.
Jan Peter
Now I read it, there was no abbr  Eiet.
Thanks.
The sub farm under Bamble was most likely Heivanne, separated from Bamble and leased 1834 to a low price.
The reason was probably there were no houses there.
The main house, stable and barn, all in good condition and some ruins are left today.
Heivanne is now only used for vaccation, and has been in the same family since the 1870s.
Heivanne is named after the forest lake Heivannet.
Source; Statnett, Norway.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/09/2013 00:57:34 |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 20:29:09
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Niels Gundersen was a 44 years old widower when he married Anne Carine Isaksdatter, who was 24 years old, Oct 19 1849, #31.
Niels Gundersen was at the holding Thorsdal under Bambleejet when he married and his father was Gunder Nielsen.
Anne Carine Isaksdatter came from Gjerrestad and her father was Isak Gundersen. |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/09/2013 07:55:29 |
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skgillett
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 20:36:36
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Man,,,,,,you guys are terrific! These details really help in further tracing the family backwards.......:)
Susan |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 20:44:57
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Before his marriage to Anne Carine Isaksdatter Niels Gundersen had been married to Anne Andersdatter, marriage record #19 dated Nov 25 1836. At this marriage he was also a widower.
Niels Gundersens first marriage was with Guri Aadnesdatter, they were married Jan 22 1829, #3.
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skgillett
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 21:25:17
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| in these marriage parish registers, can you tell me what the headers on the pages say/designate? I am looking at the registry posted under #39 by eibache and trying to read if there are parents of the groom/bride listed. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 01:26:08
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1) No. Number
2) Vielsesdag Date of marriage
3) Brudgommens Navn og Stand, Brudens Navn Bridegrooms name and occupation, bride's name
4) Brudgommens Fødested, Opholdssted. Brudens Fødested Bridegrooms place of birth, residence. Bride's place of birth
5) de viedes alder Age
6) Brudgommens Faders Navn Bridegrooms fathers name
7) Brudens Faders Navn Bride's fathers name
8) Forlovernes Navne og Opholdssted Witnesses name and residence
9) Tillysningsdagene Dates of registration
10) Af hvem Tillysninger er forlangt
11) Hvis Tillysningen ei har fundet Sted, efter hvilken Bevilling eller af had lovlig Aarsag
12) Naar havt de naturlige Kopper eller vaccinerede. Attest derom smallpox vaccine
13) Hvis Brudgommen er Embedsmand, har Pension eller Vartpenge, hvad Legitimation for Indskud i Enkekassen
14) Om nogen af dem har været gift før, og hvorledes da det foregaaende Ægteskab er ophørt, samt om lovligt Skifte er holdt. Married before?
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Edited by - jwiborg on 05/09/2013 01:28:12 |
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skgillett
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 06:21:31
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Thank you Jan......This helps
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
1) No. Number
2) Vielsesdag Date of marriage
3) Brudgommens Navn og Stand, Brudens Navn Bridegrooms name and occupation, bride's name
4) Brudgommens Fødested, Opholdssted. Brudens Fødested Bridegrooms place of birth, residence. Bride's place of birth
5) de viedes alder Age
6) Brudgommens Faders Navn Bridegrooms fathers name
7) Brudens Faders Navn Bride's fathers name
8) Forlovernes Navne og Opholdssted Witnesses name and residence
9) Tillysningsdagene Dates of registration
10) Af hvem Tillysninger er forlangt
11) Hvis Tillysningen ei har fundet Sted, efter hvilken Bevilling eller af had lovlig Aarsag
12) Naar havt de naturlige Kopper eller vaccinerede. Attest derom smallpox vaccine
13) Hvis Brudgommen er Embedsmand, har Pension eller Vartpenge, hvad Legitimation for Indskud i Enkekassen
14) Om nogen af dem har været gift før, og hvorledes da det foregaaende Ægteskab er ophørt, samt om lovligt Skifte er holdt. Married before?
Jan Peter
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eibache
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 08:03:35
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I am looking at the registry posted under #39 by eibache and trying to read if there are parents of the groom/bride listed.
- please note that the correct record is #31.
Also note that in my posting I gave you the name of the fathers of both the bride and the groom.
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eibache
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 08:15:04
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Anne Carine Isaksdatter was born July 13 1825, #34. Her parents were Isach Gundersen, Gjerrestad Ejet and Kari Svendsdatter.
Isach Gundersen, Gjerestad Ejet and Kari Svendsdatter, Nenseth were married Jan 12 1821, #2.
Kari Svendsdatter, her parents and siblings in 1801.
Isaak Gundersen, his parents and a brother in 1801.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/09/2013 09:13:31 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 08:28:17
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Heivanne 1865
Isak had a brother Niels and a sister Anne.
The farm could feed 2 big-cattle and they could sow 1/8 barrel of Wheat, 1/4 barrel of Barley, 1 barrel of Oats and 2 barrels of Potatoes.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/09/2013 10:11:17 |
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Need help deciphering handwritten Birth records.
