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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 16/11/2013 : 02:46:31
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Originally posted by luvjan65
I am working on finding those Naturalizations papers. I had no idea where he may have come ashore, until I had a hint that he may have arrived in Philadelphia, so I will follow that lead and see if that tells me anything.
Thanks,
It's a two step process be sure to get both the 1st and 2nd papers. The first papers, depending on when filed, will likely give the port of arrival in US and a month and a year date. Could be filed anywhere Cornelius lived. When he completed the procedure is not known. The 1900 census usually has an answer for that but Cornelius' 1900 census taker missed the mark. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2013 : 16:28:46
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A possible candidate.
I have not found his bap. record or confirmation.
Cornelius Jensen b. 1845 in Fjære, occ. "Matros" Seaman on farm Hæsnesøen in 1865.
Father; Widower Jens T. Corneliusen farmer, farmowner and pilot.
Fjære
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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2013 16:35:23 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/11/2013 : 22:11:38
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A very interesting candidate.
Do I understand correctly there is no church book for 1845?
The birth of the sister Larine in 16 Nov 1857, baptized 01 Jan 1858 gives the parents as Jens Thomas Corneliusen and mother Laurene Hansd, Hæsnesøen:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?urnread_imagesize=full&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=80&uid=174712&js=j
Same parents for Jens, born 21 Feb 1855, baptized 29 April: Jens Thomas Corneliusen and mother Laurene Hansd, øtre Hæsnesø (spelling?) |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2013 : 22:26:07
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The church books for Fjære seems to be uncomplete, but borders between Fjære (merged with Grimstad) and other parish`s changed many times over the years so perhaps/hopefully Cornelius Jensen is mentioned in church books from other parish`s .
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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2013 22:27:35 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2013 : 22:48:44
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Nearby on Hæsnesøen, possible sisters to Jens?
* Christiane Corneliusdatter f 1826, widow, w son Cornelius Tellefsen f 1855
* Christine M. Corneliusdatter f 1825 at Fjære, husband Reinhirts Andersen.
* Karen K. Corneliusdatter f 1822 at Fjære, husband Carl J. Vold
In 1865 Jens T. Corneliusen occupation is "Gaardbruger, Selveier, Lods" ; I think lods is some kind of sea-related job. But anyway Cornelius's occupation of matros is of interest as it is a seaman's job title. Since we can't find him immigrating, it is possible that (maybe) he could have gone to USA as a seaman. This father also does farming, which fits with Cornelius in Maryland.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/11/2013 : 23:17:58
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The farm Hesnæsøen is named after an island with the same name and could feed 2 big cattle, a pig and cultivate 2 barrels of potatoes in 1865.
"Lods" Pilot, the fathers income came from guiding ships.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2013 : 23:45:09
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I posted Cornelius Jensen on my candidates post earlier in the topic He is #5 the post in on the first page. There was a fire and vast amounts of Fjære church books were destroyed including both Cornelius' time of baptism as well as his time of confirmation.
It would have to be found if his father had an estate or dødfallsprotokol to see if there is some kind of connection. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 16/11/2013 23:53:19 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2013 : 00:45:17
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Here is a death record for a person who might possibly be the same Cornelius Jensen. If so then he probably never left Norway. Also he might have died before the 1900 Census.
Web: Norway Burial Index, DIS-Norge, 1700-2010
Name: Cornelius Jensen
Death Date: 10 Mar 1900
Burial Place: Grimstad, Aust-Agder, Norway
Age: 55
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1845 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2013 : 01:42:19
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| Bummer. Any other Cornelius Johnsons in that death database? Never mind I looked again and see its gravminner. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 17/11/2013 01:43:09 |
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conniebradsher
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 18/04/2016 : 17:04:21
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Hi...i've posted info before about my great great grandfather Cornelius Johnson. I was one of of the many it seems to be researching the wrong Cornelius.
I have a question about his naturalization papers....my daughter and I found a record of notice of his intent to become a U. S. citizen in 1890 and then we found the record of his actually becoming a citizen in 1892....both records filed with the Baltimore City, Maryland courts...no info on either about his arrival port of origin.
Would this info usually be located on these records? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 22/04/2016 : 02:33:09
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Usually, in the 1890 era a month and year of arrival and name of port of arrival are included in the Declaration of Intention (the first step). Was the item you found an index to the naturalization records or the actual record?
It's kind of ironic that this topic came up today. I just got back home from a visit to Maryland a couple of hours ago! Very lovely state...
Looking over the previous posts, it looks like we looked at the lot of Cornelius Johnsons, but did not generate a matching candidate. I wonder if his name was truly Cornelius in Norway or if it was something peculiarly Norwegian beginning with C or K which he adapted to Cornelius once he got to US? Say, Kjøstel, Kåre or something?
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conniebradsher
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 22/04/2016 : 23:08:57
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What we found was the actual record...will have to go back and see if we can find the index to the records...
Maryland is a very good place to live ;)
We were wondering if maybe his name was different in Norway before he came here...will have to go through passenger list and seaman lists again to see if we can find him that way...paying closer attention to all k or c names..checking using birthdates and arrival ports...maybe something will click..
Thanks for the help ;) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23/04/2016 : 02:09:04
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| No need to look for an index. I was thinking that you maybe had the index to the record which might have less information than the full record, |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23/04/2016 : 02:24:03
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Here are all the Kornelius' / Cornelius' born 1845 in the 1865 census at the Digitalarkivet Exact date of birth from parish baptism records:
Chornelius Olsen 1845* Høylands Præstegjeld Logerende ug Garver Høiland: Østvold Folketelling 1865 for 1123P Høyland prestegjeld
Chornelius Arnesen* 1845* Indredale deres Søn ug behjælpelig med Gaardbruget Indre Holmedal: Vindheim Folketelling 1865 for 1430P Indre Holmedal prestegjeld
Elling Cornelius Endresen Joa 1845* Haaland Log ug Seminar-Elev Holt: Goderstad, vestre Folketelling 1865 for 0914L Holt prestegjeld, Holt sokn Elling Cornelius Endresen Joa birthdate: 6 Jan 1845
Cornelius Jensen 1845* Fjære hans Søn ug Matros Fjære: Hesnæsøen Folketelling 1865 for 0923L Fjære prestegjeld, Fjære sokn
Kornelius Kristiansen 1845* Søgne Prgj. deres Søn ug hjælper Fader Søgne: Eid østre Folketelling 1865 for 1018P Søgne prestegjeld
Kornelius Korneliusen 1845* Vanse Prgj. hans Søn ug Vanse: Kjørrefjord, Buland Folketelling 1865 for 1041L Vanse prestegjeld, Vanse sokn og Farsund landsokn Cornelius Corneliusen b 26 Dec 1845 father Cornelius Larsen.
Reinert Kornelius Reinertsen 1845* Vanse Prgj. deres Søn ug Makrel og Sildefisker Vanse: Sudland* Folketelling 18fdk 65 for 1041L Vanse prestegjeld, Vanse sokn og Farsund landsokn Reinert Cornelius Reinertsen b 21 Mar 1845 father is Reinert Andreas Jacobsen.
Cornelius Imsland 1845* Stavanger Søn ug Søfarend som 2de Styrmand Stavanger: !! Folketelling 1865 for 1103 Stavanger kjøpstad
Kornelius Korneliussen 1845* Indredale deres Søn ug gaar Faderen tilhaande Indre Holmedal: Korsvoldreine Folketelling 1865 for 1430P Indre Holmedal prestegjeld b 30 May 1845 father is Cornelius Larsen
Kornelius Olsen 1845* Indredale Husherr Broder ug Skolelærerlærling Indre Holmedal: Raaheim Folketelling 1865 for 1430P Indre Holmedal prestegjeld b 3 July 1845 father Ole Rasmussen.
Kornelius Jacobsen 1845* Førde Prgj. ug Tjenestedreng Kinn: Lille-Høidal Folketelling 18645 for 1437P Kinn prestegjeld
Kornelius Simensen 1845* Førde Prgj. ug Tjenestekarl Kinn: Stavanger Folketelling 1865 for 1437P Kinn prestegjeld
Kornelius Simensen birthdate: 15 Sept 1845
Cornelius Pedersen 1845* Stryen ug Tjenestekarl Stryn: Eide - øvre Folketelling 1865 for 1448P Stryn prestegjeld
Cornelius Lagesen 1845* Edø Prgj. deres Søn ug hjælper Faderen med Gaarden Edø: Tranøen Folketelling 1865 for 1573P Edøy prestegjeld
Cornelius Jenssen 1845* Bjørnørs Prgj. hans Søn ug Bjørnør: Myren Folketelling 1865 for 1632P Bjørnør prestegjeld
Cornelius Nilssen 1845* Verdalen Deres Søn ug Wærdalen: Siken (plads) Folketelling 1865 for 1721P Verdal prestegjeld
Kornelius Maas 1845* Bindalen Deres Søn ug Bindalen: Opdalsvik* Folketelling 1865 for 1811P Bindal prestegjeld Kornelius Maas birthdate: 16 March 1845
Kornelius Hanssen 1845* Bodø Præstegj. Hans Søn ug Hjælper Fad. med Gaardbr. Bodø: Skoug Folketelling 1865 for 1843L Bodø prestegjeld, Bodø landsokn
Kornelius Rasmussen 1845* Hadsel Præste. ug Tjenestekarl Hadsel: Grøttingsnes Folketelling 1865 for 1866P Hadsel prestegjeld
Kornelius Nilsen 1845* Hadsel Deres Søn ug Hadsel: Melfjord Folketelling 1865 for 1866P Hadsel prestegjeld
Kornelius Larssen 1845* Ibestad Hendes søn ug Hjælper moderen Ibestad: Tennevold* Folketelling 1865 for 1917P Ibestad prestegjeld
Cornelius Johan Larsen b 24 Sept 1865 father Lars Johannesen.
Peder Kornelius Johansen 1845* Hammerfest Prestegjeld ug Tjenestekarl Tranø: Sørstrøm Folketelling 1865 for 1927P Tranøy prestegjeld Peder Kornelius Johansen birth date: 29 Sept 1845
Kornelius Pedersen 1845* Flekkefjords Præstegjeld Deres Søn ug Matros Flekkefjord: Fidje østre Folketelling 1865 for 1042L Flekkefjord prestegjeld, Nes sokn og Hidra sokn
Christopher Cornelius Kavli 1845* Trondhjem ug Handelsbetjent Christiania: Torvet Folketelling 1865 for 0301 Kristiania kjøpstad
Anton Cornelius Andersen 1845* Bergen ug skomagersvend Bergen: 15-53 Folketelling 1865 for 1301 Bergen kjøpstad
Kornelius Ananiasen 1845* Førde deres Søn ug Førde: Rørvig Folketelling 1865 for 1432P Førde prestegjeld
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Edited by - jkmarler on 07/05/2016 13:06:02 |
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conniebradsher
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 23/04/2016 : 03:11:13
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Thank you!! You are my new favorite person!!!
On the list is a couple names that we were researching already...the one that we are leaning towards the most is Cornelius Jensen...4th on your list.
Will let everyone know what we find out...again thank you!! |
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Cornelius Johnson from Norway to US
