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Karensue33
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  18:48:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Harald and Maris children with birth and baptism dates:
Anders, Oct 9 1840 - bapt. July 13 1841, #242 - he was born out of wedlock,
Marthe, June 26 1843 - bapt Sept 10 1843, #177,
Helle, 26 Jul 1846 - bapt. Sept 26 1846, 3rd record,
Christian, Nov 1 1852 - bapt June 19 1853, #66,
Martin, Aug 19 1855 - bapt Oct 21 1855, #142.



#66 and #142 both show Helle's information Also, are all of these journals from aadalen?

Karen
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  19:03:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those records are found in the parish church records of Norderhov, Buskerud. I'm referring to your posting which quoted the findings given for 5 church records immediately above.

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option for the instructions and search buttons is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
A newer homepage has been put up at (http://arkivverket.no/digitalarkivet) and the same resources are available there and an English option is clickable up near the upper right of that screen. The older entry point is still operational.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)

Edited by - Hopkins on 26/04/2014 19:05:19
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Karensue33
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USA
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  19:15:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#142.
..................
Harald Clemmetsen and Marthe Pedersdatter were married Dec 29 1842, #74.




Is Maris and Marthe the same person?

Karen
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Karensue33
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USA
69 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2014 :  19:18:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

Those records are found in the parish church records of Norderhov, Buskerud. I'm referring to your posting which quoted the findings given for 5 church records immediately above.

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option for the instructions and search buttons is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
A newer homepage has been put up at (http://arkivverket.no/digitalarkivet) and the same resources are available there and an English option is clickable up near the upper right of that screen. The older entry point is still operational.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)




Thank you very much <3

Karen
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  20:46:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[/quote]
#66 and #142 both show Helle's information Also, are all of these journals from aadalen?
[/quote]

Yes, Viker (Wiger) church in Aadal todays Ådal

Kåre
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Karensue33
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USA
69 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2014 :  21:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto



#66 and #142 both show Helle's information Also, are all of these journals from aadalen?
[/quote]

Yes, Viker (Wiger) church in Aadal todays Ådal

Kåre
[/quote]

Thank you...
Karen

Karen
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  21:20:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interior from Viker church;
"Altertavle" Altarpiece from the 1720s and "Døpefont" Bapt. font from 1728 link

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 26/04/2014 21:21:17
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  21:49:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
#66 and #142 both show Helle's information
- sorry for not checking the links. They are now corrected.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 26/04/2014 21:49:38
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Karensue33
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USA
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  22:18:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
#66 and #142 both show Helle's information
- sorry for not checking the links. They are now corrected.




Thank you Einar,

Karen

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Edited by - Karensue33 on 26/04/2014 22:19:14
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  22:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Is Maris and Marthe the same person?
- I have looked for the baptism record for Mari (Marthe) but has not been able to verify the first name.
I would think the marriage record should be Mari and not Marthe - marriage took place after the birth of the first child and before the second child, farm names (Bergsund eie and Skollerud eie) may also be seen as evidence.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 26/04/2014 22:43:30
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Karensue33
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  23:06:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
Is Maris and Marthe the same person?
- I have looked for the baptism record for Mari (Marthe) but has not been able to verify the first name.
I would think the marriage record should be Mari and not Marthe - marriage took place after the birth of the first child and before the second child, farm names (Bergsund eie and Skollerud eie) may also be seen as evidence.


Yes that sounds reasonable.

Karen

Karen

Edited by - Karensue33 on 26/04/2014 23:17:14
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Karensue33
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  23:10:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
#66 and #142 both show Helle's information
- sorry for not checking the links. They are now corrected.




I went back to your thread and its okay now. Thank you,

Karen

Karen

Edited by - Karensue33 on 26/04/2014 23:17:49
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Karensue33
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USA
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Posted - 26/04/2014 :  23:27:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

Interior from Viker church;
"Altertavle" Altarpiece from the 1720s and "Døpefont" Bapt. font from 1728 link

Kåre



What a beautiful church! Thank you so much for the link,

Karen

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Karensue33
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USA
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Posted - 27/04/2014 :  01:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen numerous spellings of Harald Clemmetsen. Sometime it is written as Harrald. Is this just a misspelling in the document? I'm assuming the census spelling are most correct, because they had to actually ask Harald the spelling of his name, :D

Karen

Edited by - Karensue33 on 27/04/2014 01:11:59
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Karensue33
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USA
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Posted - 27/04/2014 :  01:22:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, how would I find out when Harrald Clemmetsen and his family came to the USA if he came here at all. In particular, I'm looking for the time/date when Martha Haraldsdatter and her husband Jahn Svendsen came here. If the birth records of their children are in Norway, that would be important. Their children's names were Henry, Johanna, Anders, and Clara. Clara was born in Star Prairie Wisconsin in 1877. Johanna was born July 7 1869, and some say it was Wisconsin, but I'm not sure. I have a picture of Henry's children, but I don't know their names. There is talk that Andrew was born 24 Jul 1875 in Star Prairie, Wisconsin also. Johanna's name on her death certificate says Swenson, so they obviously changed the spelling of their names to American types. Her fathers name is listed on this record as John Swenson. Of course this information was filled in by one of their daughters.

Karen

Edited by - Karensue33 on 27/04/2014 05:00:54
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