All Forums | Main Page | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 NORWEGIAN GENEALOGY
 General genealogy
 Looking for Marit Oleson
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Previous Page | Next Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 3

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2014 :  23:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the Marie Melheim living with the above family in the 1875 Minnesota State Census.

Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Marin Melheim
Age: 16
Census Date: 1 May 1875
County: Watonwan
Locality: Odin
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
LINE: 25
Roll: MNSC_18
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  02:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Marit Olsdatter b. in Lom came to US in 1883 apparently by herself. She is #1 in 1883 right hand page, headed for Minnesota:

Source information: Nordland county, Landsoknet in Bodø, Parish register (official) nr. 802A01 (1879-1893), Emigration records 1882-1884, page 413.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6650&idx_id=6650&uid=ny&idx_side=-374

From the Emigranter fra Trondheim database, she is headed for St. James which is in Watonwan county, Minnesota!
Year Page Line no. Serial no. New group Date of reg. Date Given name Last name Marital status Occupation Sex Age Residence Destination Line Ship Ticket
36067 1883 138 9 1015 1 02.05.1883 02.05.1883 Marit Ols. ug Arbeiderske k 22 Bodø St. James Minn Amerikan Dampsk Hero Bill. bet. i Amerika

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/06/2014 02:46:04
Go to Top of Page

vivi
Senior member

Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  02:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

There was born a Gjertrud Marie Sept 25, 1858 to Iver and Karen Meelheim in Hafslo. Probably the same couple found in the 1880 census in Minnesota.

No 79:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8393&idx_id=8393&uid=ny&idx_side=-62
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070305630196.jpg

But there is no Olsdatter/Olsen here.

Vivi
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  02:46:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The family of Marit Olsdatter of Lom in 1865 Census.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1843&kenr=005&bnr=0065&lnr=00

Her brother Torkel stayed in Norway, I would assume with mother and father and can be found in the 1910 Norwegian Census.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1910&knr=1843&kenr=010&bnr=0038&lnr=00

And his birth record is given here, birth date matches that of 1910 Census and parents match that of 1865 Census. See number 61

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-13


Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2014 17:10:44
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  03:03:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marie Melheim in 1880 Census. Proably same as the person found by vivi.

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Marie Melheim
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Saint James, Watonwan, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Milner
Household Members:
Name Age
Marie Melheim 21
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  03:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gertrude M[arie] Melheim is off the board as she marries in 1882:
WATONWAN 09/26/1882 FOSSUM, MARCUS G MELHEIM, GERTRUDE M

Marie Domas is also off the board:
WATONWAN 07/15/1883 HAGESTANDE, OLE DOMAAS, MARIE

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/06/2014 14:10:34
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  03:25:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe Marit leaving Norway?

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000079321
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  03:29:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still find the old data base easier to find good data.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=36067&merk=36067#ovre
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  04:30:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

I still find the old data base easier to find good data.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=36067&merk=36067#ovre



Indeed, when is an upgrade not an upgrade? When you have less than you had before...

Wally, you've searched the other side of the family in Lom. What do you know about the family of Brit Torkjelsdatter, Peter Lien's mother? Did she have a sister or half sister named Inga or Ingeri?

Here are a couple of entries at familysearch:

Ingrie Torkelsen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 31 July 1819
christening: 22 August 1819 LOM,OPLAND,NORWAY
father: Torkild Nielsen
mother: Anne Torkildsdr

Brith Torkelsen
Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927
birth: 31 March 1807
christening: 5 April 1807 LOM,OPLAND,NORWAY
father: Torkild Nielsen
mother: Marit Syversdr

Torkild Nielson on Bakkeberg in Lom in 1801:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=14021&personpostnr=212862&merk=212862#ovre

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/06/2014 01:23:27
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  05:35:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Here is the possible Marit's parents' marriage #11:
Source information: Oppland county, Lom, Parish register (official) nr. 6B (1837-1863), Marriage records 1854, page 421.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8916&idx_id=8916&uid=ny&idx_side=-55

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/06/2014 05:43:33
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  05:43:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Torkild with Marit

Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 about Torkild Nielsen
Name: Torkild Nielsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 19 feb 1807
Marriage Place: Lom,Opland,Norway
Spouse: Marit Siversdr
FHL Film Number: 125511
Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  05:58:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at what seems to be the birth record of Ingri, I do not see the wife as being named Anne?

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9244&idx_id=9244&uid=ny&idx_side=-45

Yet I find this record in Ancestry just like yours from Famly Search?

Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Ingrie Torkelsen
Name: Ingrie Torkelsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 31 jul 1819
Baptism Date: 22 aug 1819
Baptism Place: Lom,Opland,Norway
Father: Torkild Nielsen
Mother: Anne Torkildsdr
FHL Film Number: 125511

Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2014 06:00:38
Go to Top of Page

peterstorlien
Starting member

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  05:59:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie,

Regarding your question:
"What do you know about the family of Brit Torkjelsdatter Nordistugu, Peter Lien's mother? Did she have a sister or half sister named Inga or Ingeri?"

Below you will find Peter Lien's mother Brit Torkjelsdatter Nordistugu (1.) as well as her siblings including:
6. Ingrid Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1819, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland, Norway.



1. Brit Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1807, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland, Norway
2. Torø Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1809, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland, Norway
3. Sigrid Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1810, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland, Norway Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1878
4. Nils Torkjellsson Nordistugu, b. 1813, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland, Norway d. 1875
5. Syver Torkjellsson Nordistugu, b. 1815, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland,
6. Ingrid Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1819, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland,
7. Marit Torkjellsdotter Nordistugu, b. 1823, of Bakkeberg, Bøverdal, Lom, Oppland,

also in Bygdabok for Lom bind 4: Gards- og ættesoge for Bøverdalen, Jon Kolden, (Lesja, Norway: Lom kommune, 2007), page 260.
I was very fortunate to stumble upon the existence of this book on the internet and was equally fortunate to be able to purchase a copy from Lom kommune in Norway.
see also:
https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I17428&tree=Lom
which will show you her ancestors back to abt 1714.

She married my great grandfather Syver Persson Storlii in 1833 in Lom, Oppland.

Go to Top of Page

AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9225 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  06:07:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the baptism record for Ingeri with mother named Anne

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9243&idx_id=9243&uid=ny&idx_side=-33

Interesting that both baptism records have a list of the same witnesses and the smae dates for birth and baptism but different mothers names or names that appear to be different.

Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2014 06:35:20
Go to Top of Page

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2014 :  06:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Looking at what seems to be the birth record of Ingri, I do not see the wife as being named Anne?

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9244&idx_id=9244&uid=ny&idx_side=-45

Yet I find this record in Ancestry just like yours from Famly Search?

Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Ingrie Torkelsen
Name: Ingrie Torkelsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 31 jul 1819
Baptism Date: 22 aug 1819
Baptism Place: Lom,Opland,Norway
Father: Torkild Nielsen
Mother: Anne Torkildsdr
FHL Film Number: 125511



Heh, heh. A man with 2 watches is never really sure what time it is!

I searched line by line through the Lom marriages from 1812-1821 and found none between Torkild Nielson and Anne. Seeing the two entries in the flesh makes me think that the pastor and the clerk didn't get together to examine and resolve the differences in their books. Bakkeberg is the farm name in the marriage record of Ingri and the family residence when possible Marit was born. So it appears that possible Marit's mother Ingri was a probable full sister of Peter Lien's mother Brit, meaning that Peter and Marit were first cousins if true. Possible Marit's ticket was paid to America and the time frame is tight, landing in America latter part of May 1883 and married in July 1883. It does happen that people marry quickly upon arrival but such a quick watershed is facilitated if the family is already familiar--related. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 3 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Norway Heritage Community © NorwayHeritage.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
Articles for Newbies:

Hunting Passenger Lists:

An article describing how, and where, to look for passenger information about Norwegian emigrants
    1:   Emigration Records - Sources - Timeline
    2:   Canadian Records (1865-1935)
    3:   Canadian Immigration Records Database
    4:   US arrivals - Customs Passenger Lists
    5:   Port of New York Passenger Records
    6:   Norwegian Emigration Records
    7:   British outbound passenger lists
 

The Transatlantic Crossing:

An article about how the majority of emigrants would travel. It also gives some insight to the amazing development in how ships were constructed and the transportation arranged
    1:   Early Norwegian Emigrants
    2:   Steerage - Between Decks
    3:   By sail - daily life
    4:   Children of the ocean
    5:   Sailing ship provisions
    6:   Health and sickness
    7:   From sail to steam
    8:   By steamship across the ocean
    9:   The giant express steamers
 
Search Articles :
Search the Norway Heritage articles

Featured article