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Marlys Nelson
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Kåarto
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 Posted - 14/08/2014 : 12:27:14
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This is diff. Reading, its written in Gothic that I have not learned.
Joen Joensen Aasen under Floan
" Caverte" Guarantors/Best men; Christopher Larsen Floan and Joen Jacobsen Floan.
Married in Værnes church
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/08/2014 : 13:12:06
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The 2nd marraige 1718 between Joen Bertelsen and Ane Olsdatter "fra" from Trunds: (there was a farm Trondseth in Stjørdal in the 1801 census)
Correct, Engagement in March, actuallay on Dominica Reminiscere; 2nd Sunday of Lent; March Sunday 13.
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 14/08/2014 : 18:55:34
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First, thanks to Kåarto for taking a stab at the marriage records in question. There is no problem with the names of the men and women getting married but there is information within the record that I had hoped would tell me more about the brides such where they were from, seocnd marriage, etc.
In the case of the first marriage in question, Joen Joensen Aasen under Floan .......some information....Joen Jacobsen... and then.. Marit Andersd ......some information. The question is what is being written. Unfortunately, the white patches placed over the witnesses thumb prints kind covers some of the info.
In the case of the second marriage, Joen Bertelsen Fløgjerdet and Ane Olsd. fra Trundh:......some information...Sebastian Whitte dode 17 Novenb 1717 .......more info. Is Sebastian Whitte
Ane's 1st husband?
I was hoping that there was genealogical information hidden in all the ..... areas.
Thanks again for your help.
Gene Nelson |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/08/2014 : 20:21:53
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Regarding Joen Bertelsen Fløgjerdet and Ane Olsdatter:
Ane Olsdatter is from Trundh:, ie. Trondheim.
Single people who moved from 1 parish to another, (ie. from Trondheim to Stjørdal) often had to bring a certificate with them, to prove for the priest in the new parish (who didn't knew the "immigrant"), that the person was not bound in marriage, engaged, etc.
Part of the page read:
"... andbragt attest ... fra mag: Sebastian Whitte af dato 17 November 1717, og at ... ... ... ægteskabs føldbyrde ... ... til hinder for ..."
"... brought certificate .. from Magister Sebastian Whitte dated 17. November 1717, and that .... consummated marriage (???) ... ... (not) preclude ... "
Magister Sebastian Christophersen With was born 1656 in Sunndalsøra, and died 20 Aug 1721 in Trondheim. He was a pastor ("sogneprest") at Vår Frue Church in Trondheim 1684-1721. It is likely that Ane Olsdatter was from an area near Vår Frue Church in Trondheim, and belonged to that congregation.
Thus; I think it says that Ane Olsdatter had a certificate issued by pastor Sebastian With from Trondheim, saying that she was not bound in any marriage. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/08/2014 : 21:30:48
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Regarding the first record: Joen Joensen's farmname is Fløan. "Fløgjerdet" is a farm under Fløan.
I believe the white patches covers the farmowner's personal mark ("signature"). This is Joen Jacobsen Fløan's personal mark:
These signs were used because most of the farmers could not read or write. They had their personal sign if they had to sign an official document, like a marriage record. Not sure who or why these personal marks are covered in the churchbook above. Interesting...
A different signature of him can be seen on bottom page 272...
Could Johan Johnsen Auran (Fløan) be Joen Joensen Fløan?
He is not married to Marit Andersdatter though, but Mali Greisdatter Auran.... |
Edited by - jwiborg on 14/08/2014 23:00:23 |
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 15/08/2014 : 02:34:11
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Thanks to jwiborg for the info he supplied. With regards to Johan Joensen Auran (Floan) f. ca. 1700 who married Mali Greisdtr. Auran f. ca. 1705 and Joen Joensen Fløgjerdet f. Dedc 1720, they are a generation apart.
However, they are both my relatives. Mali's brother, Ivar Greisen Auran/Forbord f. ca. 1698 is one of my g......grandfathers and Joen Joensen Fløgjerdet is another of my g......grandfathers. I'm getting back to where it's difficult to find source information on their births, marriages, and deaths plus their wifes and childred. The bygdeboks are helpful but not good sources.
Thanks again for your help, Gene Nelson |
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