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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  16:43:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've already looked at the ELCA baptism/confirmation database at archives.com and found no Frank Haraldson / Haroldson nor Frank / Francis Oscar Olson nor Frank / Francis Offerdal / Offerdahl. I haven't tried Frank Knutson yet. Done now but no result. Which doesn't mean there isn't a baptismal record for him just that it doesn't really result in the search engine of the database.

The Haroldsons lived in Brandrup township of Wilkin county Minnesota and appear in the census records there from at least 1895-1940. In the 1900 census Gena says she is married for 11 years, has born 4 children and 4 children are living (even though there are 6 children in the household.) In either the 1910 or 1920 census Gena's count is 6 children born / 6 children living.

It appears likely that George Haroldson was probably named Gunder and was likely the son of Thor and Thorbjor Haroldson who live near George and his family in Brandrup. George's first wife died and the child Harry Haroldson is likely the son of George / Gunder and his first wife.

Edited by - jkmarler on 18/08/2014 18:22:01
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  16:47:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most likely Knut's arrival in 1873.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Knud I Offerdal
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1873
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Bergen and Christiania, Norway
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Olaf
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  16:48:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are Haroldson memorials in Wilkin county at findagrave. Here is Gina's, there are also Albert, Gunder, Thomas & Grandfather Haraldson and Harold Haraldson all in the Stiklestad cemetery at Doran:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Haroldson&GSiman=1&GScid=2331014&GRid=52963417&

Edited by - jkmarler on 18/08/2014 17:03:06
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The death certificate for Frank. Sometimes this certificate does contain the mothers and fathers names. However this one probably only contains the mothers.

Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002
Name: Frank O. Haraldson
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1885
Death Date: 20 Jan 1975
Death County: Le Sueur
Mother's Maiden Name: Olson
State File Number: 001090
Certificate Number: 001090
Certificate Year: 1975
Record Number: 2648868
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice that Frank has listed or had listed for him, his brthplace as both Minnesota and North Dakota.

1900 and 1910 and 1920 US Census birthplace is Minnesota and 1905 Minnesota State Census.

1930 and 1940 US Census birthplace is North Dakota


Edited by - AntonH on 18/08/2014 17:15:02
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:17:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess my question to poster is where did the information about Frank's father being Knute Offerdal come from? Was it on his death certificate?
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dodgeboy12
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Anna K. Seim 20 year old Norwegian
Arriving May 4 1893 Philadelphia on SS Indiana
destination Wisconsin
rel of res in remarks
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:32:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More info here
Seems like his steph father Geo was Gunder.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 18/08/2014 17:32:22
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  17:40:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I found Anna K. Seim 20 year old Norwegian
Arriving May 4 1893 Philadelphia on SS Indiana
destination Wisconsin
rel of res in remarks
Nice Find

Here is how Ancestry.com transcribed it.

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948
Name: Anna K Senn
Gender: Female
Birthdate: abt 1873
Last Residence: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 4 May 1893
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age on Arrival: 20 Years
Ship: Indiana


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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  18:08:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The original poster has asked if someone could translate the baptism record and confirmation record for Anna. It woud be better if someone with better Norwegian skills than I have would undertake that task. Here are the links.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6949&idx_id=6949&uid=ny&idx_side=-79

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2968&idx_id=2968&uid=ny&idx_side=-118
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  19:07:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maid Kristine Thomasdatter Sæim (1847) states as the childs father Bachelor Knud Iversen Offerdal (1852)

All five godparents are from Sæim.

Confirmation June 24. 1888
Anna Knudsdatter Sæim born on Sæim, Place of living; Asperheim.
Parents; Bachelor and servant Knud Iversen Offerdal and maid Kristine Thomasdatter Asperheim.
Vaccinated (smallpox) July 8. -74.
Grades; "Meget god" Very good

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 18/08/2014 19:59:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  22:28:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the old style emmigration records you can see other passenger who just might be travelling with the person of interest. In this case it may be that Anne is travelling with Inga Larsdatter Aarebo age 23 also from Aadal.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=EMIBERG&gardpostnr=32914&merk=32914#ovre
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  22:38:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Inga L Aarebo age 22 is also travelling to Wis. and under the Remarks column lists Parents in U.S.

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948
Name: Inga L Anebro
Gender: Female
Birthdate: abt 1871
Last Residence: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 4 May 1893
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age on Arrival: 22 Years
Ship: Indiana
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/08/2014 :  23:24:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's no obituary of Knute Offerdal in the Rowberg Biographical File.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 19/08/2014 :  00:27:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There appears to have been years of working to find the father of Frank Haraldson -- with various spellings and national origins.

http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.oftedahl/6/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.oftedahl/6/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.general/9893/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.offerdahl/5/mb.ashx

In that last thread listed above there were two Ivar/Iver 'Offerdal' men easy to get a bit confused -
1. Ivar Ivarsen Offerdal -- b. 30 Mar 1856 Årdal (Lærdal) S&F parents Iver Olsen (1814- ) & Kristen Anfinsdtr
2. Ivar Ivarsen Offerdal -- b. 15 Apr 1841 Årdal (Lærdal) S&F parents Iver Endresen (1785- ) & Gjøran Christensdtr

The subject of the thread on this website, Knudt Iverson Offerdal, born 2 Aug 1852, was the older brother of the young man listed as 1. above but the poster said he left Norway traveling with 2. above. I was not able to find a ship's list to confirm that.

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