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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 07/12/2014 : 01:48:41
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Well Gilbert may have some legs as a candidate. Here is the 1885 Minnesota State Census for Gunderman Thompson and family. The wife is named Engeber in this census. The children are listed as Thomas, John, Martha 21 Ingebright 19, Nils 17, Sarah 15, Betsey 13, Jennie 11, Ingebor 9, Andreas 7, Matilda 1.All listed as having been born in Norway except for Matilda. If Gilbert were a son of Gudmund he should be around Martha and Ingebright. .
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Gunderman Thompson
Age: 46
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Race: White
LINE: 14
Roll: MNSC_43 |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/12/2014 01:59:04 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 01:56:26
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Here is the 1885 Minnesota State Cenus for Martha and Ingebright and NilsThompson from Todd County, daughter and sons of Gudmund and Ingeborg. Is there room for Gilbert to fit in between these three Doubtful.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Ingebright Thompson
Age: 19
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Race: White
LINE: 19
Roll: MNSC_43
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Martha Thompson
Age: 21
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Race: White
LINE: 18
Roll: MNSC_43
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Nils Thompson
Age: 17
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Race: White
LINE: 20
Roll: MNSC_43 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 01:59:28
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Here is, I believe, the head of household Gudmund leaving Norway with wife Ingeborg, 2 year old Andreas, and an 11 year old Sigrid & others (you have to page through the children to see the group) heading for Osakis, Minnesota:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000067189
Sigrid is possibly the first wife of Olaf Buness in another topic on Norway Heritage. The brother Andreas is living with Sigrid's daughter Ida Brakken in the 1920 census. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/12/2014 02:15:27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 02:00:03
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This would be my candidate for Gudmund and Ingeborg and first son Thomas.
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Thomas Gudmundsen
Name: Thomas Gudmundsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 apr 1860
Baptism Place: Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
Father: Gudmund Thomasen
Mother: Ingeborg Johnsdatter
FHL Film Number: 307069 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 02:04:07
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And this is likely the family in the 1865 Norwegian Census.
NHDC 1865 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
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KLeach
Medium member
Canada
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 03:57:55
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I have a similar family in one of my files:
Gudmund Thomasen, b. 21 Jan 1839, Tømmerås, Meråker, Norway (father)
Parents: Tomas Ingebrigtsen Stugudal and Marta Svendsdatter Bjørknes
Ingeborg Johnsdtr, b. 11 May 1841, Gillian, Meråker, Norway (mother)
Parents: John Johannesen Rotvold and Sigrid Torsteinsdtr Stordalsvold
Gudmund and Ingeborg's Children (12):
Thomas Gudmundsen, b. 28 Feb 1860, Størdahlen, Meråker, Norway
John Gudmundsen, b. 17 Feb 1861, Størdahlen
Marta Gudmundsdtr, b. 18 Dec 1863, Størdahlen
Ingebrigt Gudmundsen, b. 15 Jul 1866, Størdahlen
Nils Gudmundsen, b. 6 Jul 1868, Størdahlen
Sigrid Gudmundsdtr, b. 22 Jan 1870, Størdahlen (Wife of Olaf Bunæs)
Beret Gudmundsdtr, b. 7 Feb 1872, Størdahlen
Johanna Gudmundsdtr, b. 27 Feb 1874, Størdahlen
Ingeborg Gurina Gudmundsdtr, b. 3 Feb 1876, Størdahlen
Andreas Gudmundsen , b. 30 May 1878, Størdahlen
Mali Gudmundsdtr, b. 30 Aug 1880, Størdahlen
Mathilde Gudmundsdtr, birth day and place, Unknown
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Here the family is in 1875 still on the same farm:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052383001917
Sigrid's baptism #7:
Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Meråker in Øvre Stjørdal, Parish register (official) nr. 706A02 (1862-1877), Birth and baptism records 1870, page 25.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6620&idx_id=6620&uid=ny&idx_side=-28
Brother Ingebright shares a July birthdate with target Gulbrand Tomasson:
Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Meråker in Øvre Stjørdal, Parish register (official) nr. 706A02 (1862-1877), Birth and baptism records 1866, page 14.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6620&idx_id=6620&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
I suppose the "bright" or "bret" of Ingebret might be reminiscent of the "bert" part of Gilbert....
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Edited by - KLeach on 07/12/2014 04:03:15 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 04:30:31
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So Gilbert Thompson could be the same person as Ingebright Gudmundsen? Well there is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com that thinks so as well. The Tree has no father listed for this person. Shown as
Gilbert "Ingebrigt Gudmundsen" Thompson
Birth Jul 1866 in Norway
Death
No spouse listed but six children are listed and the Tree is linked to the 1900 and 1910 US Census posted already by Jackie. The Tree is owned by a David Kluxdal. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 05:08:28
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Arrival of Ingebrigt and three siblings into Canada.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Ingeboughe Gudmunder
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Birth Year: abt 1866
Date of Arrival: 13 May 1882
Vessel: Buenos Ayrean
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Buenos Ayrean in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland; Liverpool, England |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/12/2014 05:10:10 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 06:10:36
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Redid it and it worked for me, try again and let me know. For some reason the link will not work as desired. It takes one to the main Trondheim Emmigration page. However if you enter the year and er lik and 1882. Followed by Ettternamn and Inneheld and Gud you will go to the correct page.
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Anne Brit Benum
Senior member
Norway
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2014 : 13:14:40
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| You have found much information about a guy with the name Gulbrand/Gudbrand - but he is NOT from Trøndelag, which is the complete page 2. As I wrote on the first page, he was born in Oppland! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 15:14:01
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| Great work lyndal40. Anne, yes, that's right. In the beginning Gilbert Thompson looked as if he could be your Gudmund. As was said, not enough was known about Gilbert, to be sure. All the research was necessary to show whether he was the right guy or not. If more /new candidates are found, the same process will be needed again. |
Edited by - JaneC on 07/12/2014 15:15:19 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2014 : 17:06:51
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Anne,
Did Gulbrand have any siblings or cousins, aunts or uncles who came to US?
What were the names of the farms Gulbrand lived on in Vang? |
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Gulbrand/Gudbrand Tomasson, born July 27, 1865
