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ariordan
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Australia
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  07:29:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is anyone able to post a family tree for Roald Amundsen. We are trying to make a connection between Truls Valle and Amundsen

eibache
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  09:21:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Near the top of this page you find Search
Click there and type in Roald Amundsen and you can open all topics related to him.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 26/08/2015 13:54:36
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  17:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a stab at a Famly Tree culled from Ancestry.com and other sources.

Ruth Valle
BIRTH 1891 • Whroo, Victoria, Australia
DEATH Unknown

father
Ludwig Trulsen Valle
BIRTH ABT 1860 • Norway
DEATH 1931 • Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia

Death notice from Ancestry.com
Hy Ludwig Trulsen Valle
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Hy Ludwig Trulsen Valle
Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 71
Death Place: Mooroopna, Victoria
Registration Year: 1931
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 10860

mother
Henrietta Maria Britten Cameron/Valle
Henrietta Maria Britten Cameron/Valle
BIRTH 1857 • Dunolly, Victoria, Australia
DEATH 1908 • Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia

A Ludvig Trulsen in 1865 Norwegian Censsus from Tune.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037997000504

Father here is Truls Svendsen born abt 1821. which matches up fairly well with the Truls Svendsen found in the Geni Tree link to which was posted in earlier thread.

GENI



Edited by - lyndal40 on 26/08/2015 17:26:48
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  17:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ludvig of Australia seems to have used the name Henry as well.

Henry Ludwig Halle Trulsen
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Henry Ludwig Halle Trulsen
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1909
Subdistrict: Shepparton
State: Victoria
District: Echuca
Country: Australia

Henry Lu'dwig Valle Trulsen
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Henry Lu'dwig Valle Trulsen
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1906
Subdistrict: Kialla
State: Victoria
District: Echuca
Country: Australia
Residence Address: Kialla
Occupation: Carter
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  17:40:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ruth Valle's mothers parents are listed as being from England and Ireland , so there it is unlikely that any connection can be found there.

John Moore BRITTEN
BIRTH 1808 • Kendal, , Westmorland, England
DEATH 13 AUG 1870 • Tarnagulla, , Victoria, Australia

Elizabeth CROWE
BIRTH 1818 • Tipperary, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland
DEATH 6 JUL 1893 • Dunolly, , Victoria, Australia


Edited by - lyndal40 on 27/08/2015 00:11:53
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  18:48:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the previous topic the poster said that an image of the letter or the envelope were sent to Jane. I wonder about them...

The exact wording of the original post about emailing the image on was posted on 11 Jan 2013 and is quoted below.

Edited by - jkmarler on 26/08/2015 22:33:12
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JaneC
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  19:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not finding it in email.

Edited by - JaneC on 26/08/2015 20:31:07
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  21:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to a Family Tree on Ancestry.com John Moore Birtten and Elizabeth Crowe were married in 1838 in Tasmania. They are shown to have had 13 children including Henriietta born in 1857. All of the children as near as I can see were born in Tasmania. Hard to make a connection there with Roald Amundsen.

John Britton
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: John Britton
[John Britten]
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Crowe
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1838
Marriage Place: Tasmania
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Registration Year: 1838
Registration Number: 4093
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  22:02:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the OP's original post she posted this Famly Line.

quote:
I have not been able to attach the envelope and card but I have emailed it to Jane on this forum. She may have more expertise re posting an attachment.
The line we have established is this... Mikkel Amundsen was the father of Helle Mikkelsdatter (1705-1782) who was the mother of Jon Ingebretson (1736-1804) who was father of Michel Johnsen (1772-1809) ( husband of Anne Cathrine Syversdatter (1768-1838) ) father to Grethe Michelsdatter ( wife of Lars Hendrikson Torp)
mother 91798-1880) to Maren Larsdatter 1821 wife of Truls Svendson born 1821 mother of Ludwig Trulsen Valle. The Valle's came from Borge


Interestingly, there is a Famly Tree for Helle Mikkelsdatter by Odd Marthinsen, the same owner as the Family Tree for Roald Amundsen with link posted by Kåre.

Here is the link to Helle Mikkelsdatter.

http://www.oddmarthinsen.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=7774&tree=tre1

And the link from Kåre to the same owner.

http://www.oddmarthinsen.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=4824&tree=tre1

Edited by - lyndal40 on 26/08/2015 22:11:52
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  22:27:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking in more detail at the Family Tree from Odd Marthinsen, one can trace the Family Line from Helle Mikkelsdatter down to Maren Larsdatter married to Trules Svendsen. If you go to this link and click on Aner (ie Ancestors) one can easily trace the Famly Line back from Maren Larsdatter.

http://www.oddmarthinsen.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=7745&tree=tre1

Doing the same thing from the page for Roald Amundsen allows you to compare the ancestors of both people

http://www.oddmarthinsen.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=4833&tree=tre1

. There are of course a lot of blanks left but I could not find any common ancestors in the two trees.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 26/08/2015 22:34:37
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lyndal40
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Posted - 26/08/2015 :  22:56:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could the families have somehow been aquainted with one another in Borge even if not directly releated. Here is the baptism record for Roald Amundsen. See number 76.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=354&idx_id=354&uid=ny&idx_side=-122

Odd Martinsen lists his birth place as

Tomta, Vesten østre, Borge, Østfold, Norge

This is likely the family in 1865 Census, however two children Jens and Gustav seem to be missing.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037984001593

Maren Larsdatter is listed by Odd Martinsen as born 22 Apr 1798 Vesten vestre, Borge, Østfold,

Here is her baptism record See number 10 right hand page.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7444&idx_id=7444&uid=ny&idx_side=-35

Then the family moved to Torp. There is a hundred years between this event and the birth of Roald Amundsen. But as Kåre pointed out in the earlier thread, Torp and Vesten are quite close.

There does not seem to be any connection between families for the baptism of Luvig. See number 52.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=353&idx_id=353&uid=ny&idx_side=-96


Edited by - lyndal40 on 26/08/2015 23:40:49
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lyndal40
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  00:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Persuant to Ruth Valle, she is recorded as having been married in 1911 at approximate age of approximately 20 years old. Not much time to get to know Roald before she was married.

Ruth Valle
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Ruth Valle
Spouse Name: Chapman Arth Clarke
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Number: 4730
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  00:09:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

Nils Walle in Oslo in 1910, wife Bertha, children include Arvid and Sverre:



Not sure if this has been mentioned before, there are many pages in total.

The Valle name comes from Birthe/ Berthe/ Bertha born in Tune June 11. 1860, living on Valle Søndre (South. Valle) age 6 in 1865

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 27/08/2015 00:16:42
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