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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 08/10/2015 : 15:44:15
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Here is a family of Svensons with both a Borghild and a Sverre in Norwegian 1900 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037045184531
Here are males with first initial T_____ and last name Bruun migrating to US found at the Danish Emigration database:
Name: Bruun, Thomas Occupation: Fuldmægtig
Age: 19 Destination: New York
Contract no.: 239200 Registration date: 11-11-1884
Last res. parish: Fåborg Last res. county: Svendborg
Last residence: Faaborg Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Island
Remarks: ANM: Isl. IDcode: D8385B1104
Name: Bruun, Theodor Occupation: Ølhandler
Age: 33 Destination: New York
Contract no.: 103500 Registration date: 09-04-1888
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Odense Last res. county: Odense
Last residence: Odense Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Thingvalla
IDcode: D8789B0611
Name: Bruun, Therkel Berthelsen Occupation: Landmand
Age: 21 Destination: Green Bay, Wiscon.
Contract no.: 290300 Registration date: 14-09-1871
Last res. parish: ? Last res. county: - Slesvig
Last residence: Slesvig Destination country: USA
Destination city: Green Bay Destination state: Wisconsin
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I7172B0703 |
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jreale
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 17:31:23
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JaneC, The letter is not dated. I believe it's page 2, signed Borghild. No envelope. No postmark.
I just want to give this Bible back to the Family.
I have no interest other than giving the family their history. That's it. Gratis.
I want nothing in return, no money, no information - nothing.
If no family is available, I will bring the book to LDS in Plainview, N.Y., U.S.A.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2015 : 19:41:33
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Sometimes Bibles have pages to record family information.
On the pages with the other names are there any headings with words like
Fødte or Døbte
Viede or AEgteviede or Vielse
Døde ?
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Edited by - jkmarler on 08/10/2015 20:22:56 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2015 : 16:44:43
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Jreale,
Obviously at this point with about 200 views of your post we would have figured it out with the clues given, if we were going to. This lack of clarity is why we continue to ask you for information from the Bible, itself.
It is not to harass you or bother you in any way but merely to see if we can find the right clue to unlock the mystery. If all we have are the names you have given us we may not be able to solve who they are in order to find any of their possible descendants so that you can give the Bible to them.
As Jane said earlier, we here at Norwayheritage are all volunteers and we love a mystery! Between us we have an excellent skill set to solve mysteries like this. You asked for our help, now let us help you.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2015 : 17:37:32
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Maybe of some interest on the Borghild Svendsen, probably the same one who lived in New York, upstate and Brooklyn and Minnesota with Sverre Svendsen.
Borghild Svendsen
in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Borghild Svendsen
SSN: 064-20-5700
Last Residence:
703 (U.S. Consulate) Oslo, Norway
BORN: 14 Jan 1887
Died: Nov 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Borghild Martine Svendsen
in the Reports of Deaths of American Citizens Abroad, 1835-1974
Name: Borghild Martine Svendsen
Date of Birth: abt 1887
Date of Death: 7 Nov 1970
Place of Death: Norway
Age at Death: 83
Document states that her effects are left in the hands of her brother Louis Urdahl of Flaengrenda 9, Oslo, Norway
Maybe this guy living with father Hans Urdahl and rest of family in 1910.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1910&knr=0301&kenr=102&bnr=0075&lnr=09
Or this version of the 1910 Census.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036392204388
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Edited by - AntonH on 10/10/2015 17:48:43 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2015 : 17:46:59
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This is likely the Baptism record for the Sverre in the records directly above. Mother is named Pauline. It is also likely that this is the same Sverre Sigurd Svendsen found in New York and Minnesota, and who had a sister named Borghild and a wife named Borghild.
Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 des 1883 (25 Dec 1883)
Baptism Date: 27 jan 1884
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father's Age: 1856
Mother's Age: 1856
Father: Emil Svendsen
Mother: Pauline Pedersen
FHL Film Number: 1282974
This is likely Sverre leaving Oslo in 1904.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000549777 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2015 : 19:18:28
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This is likely the Borghild Martine who was married to Sverre Sigurd Svendsen and who lived in New York, Minnesota and later died in Norway. Name and birth date match.
Borghild Martine Jensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Borghild Martine Jensen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 jan 1887
Baptism Date: 11 apr 1887
Baptism Place: Halden, Ostfold, Norway
Father: Hans Martin Jensen
Mother: Anne Marie
FHL Film Number: 255774
Reference ID: 2:1CTCNPN
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2015 : 20:15:51
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Here is the family Anton has been exploring in 1885 in Kristiania:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01053257129245
00 Emil Svensen 1851 Høland Myrer
018 00 Lina Svensen 1851 Kongsvinger
019 00 Johan Svensen 1878 Kristiania
020 00 Trygve Svensen 1881 Kristiania
021 00 Sverre Svensen 1883 Kristiania
Sverre's baptism #10 top half of page:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Sagene, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1880-1891), Fødte og døpte 1884, side 82.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5431&idx_id=5431&uid=ny&idx_side=-87
Sverre's marriage as recorded in MOMS:
HENNEPIN 01120301 12/23/1905 SVENDSEN, SIGRID WDAHL, BORGHILD
The ELCA Marriages database assigns a name and birthplace to "Sigurd" of "Xtiania"
The brother Johan's confirmation:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/kf/person/pk00000000036017
The brother Trygve's confirmation:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/kf/person/pk00000000037282
In the City Directory search in Minneapolis Sverre is found from 1907-1918, along with his brother Olof Trygve:
1907 Sverre is occupied as bricklayer residing 271 21st Ave S.
1909 as Sigurd, bricklayer, rooms at 1916 South 6th
Olof T bricklayer, rooms at 1916 South 6th
Ernest Svendsen, laborer room at 1916 South 6th
1912 Sverre, bricklayer, bds 718 27th Ave S
Trygve, bricklayer, bds 718 27th Ave S
1918 Sverre, bricklayer, 271 21st Ave S.
The brother Olaf Trygve dies in Minnesota in 1919:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD3M-68J
The brother Olaf Trygve also left in 1904 heading for Maine:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000638229
The brother Olaf Trygve WWI draft registration card, gives his mother Pauline Svendson as nearest relative:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K872-DHX
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2015 : 23:49:52
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| The reason for focusing on Sverre, Borghild and Lille is that there are far too many Anders or Andrew Olsens to be able to separate out any one or two of interest. The seach for Brunn or Bruin also did not turn up any with the first initial of T. P. |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/10/2015 01:51:50 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2015 : 00:33:05
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Yes ii is much easier to find several than to find one.
Here is a link to Sverre Sigurd's signature (on his marriage record). Perhaps a handwriting match would be possible with some of the items in the Bible?:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKNT-9QK
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2015 : 01:54:49
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Nice find Jackie opens up a lot of new information
Interesting that she used the name Urdahl, same name as her brother on the marriage application.
The marriage record from ElCA.
Borghild Urdahl
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Borghild Urdahl
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1905
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Spouse: Sigurd Svendsen
Spouse Birth Place: Farnia
Church Name: Bethany
Church Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2015 : 02:04:59
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Arrival of Borghild into Boston. Interesting her friend is named Caroline Olsen, Minneapolis, MN
Borghild Martine Urdahl
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Borghild Martine Urdahl
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Norwegian
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Cymric
Arrival Date: 8 Oct 1905
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Caroline Olsen
Last Residence: Norway |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/10/2015 02:07:32 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2015 : 04:54:17
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Maybe just a coincidence but they have a daughter named Lillian
Might be Andrew and Lilian in 1910 Census. No Caroline. Same address as in 1905, 4725 Abbott Avenue. Mpls.Occupation is Carpenter, House.
Andrew Olson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Olson
[Andrew Olsen]
Age in 1910: 31
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Minneapolis Ward 13, Hennepin, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edith E May 32
Fred Gaulke 25
Andrew Olson 31
Hannah Olson 4
Lillian Olson 6
Arthur Locke 22 |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/10/2015 05:26:21 |
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Olfen Family Bible found: 1881
