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Marlys Nelson
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Kåarto
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 Posted - 14/12/2015 : 01:03:08
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The only info I have is about blacksmith Michel Andersen who married 3 times. His last wife was Kari Knudsdatter. They lived on Kvernbergsund Ødegården, Norderhov, in 1801. Michel died 1805.
Kverbergsundet at that time was the southern part of todays Hønefoss.
There is a transcript of the probate protocol after him where all of his children are mentioned.
Norderhov means the northern Hov. Hov was a pagan place/building where people worshiped the old Norse gods and was probably build on the same place as the church stands today.
Time to close the pc, it is one hour passed midnight in Norway.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 01:43:27
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This is likely the Ancestry.com transcribed version of the birth in 1726 that you have linked to.
Randi Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Randi Andersen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 30 mai 1726 (30 May 1726)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Gune Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124050 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 02:32:11
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This is likely another chld of this couple born in 1723. Her name is listed here as Guri.
Gioran Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Gioran Andersen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 23 apr 1723
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Guri Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
See also second entry from the bottom right hand page.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8520&idx_id=8520&uid=ny&idx_side=-100 |
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 05:54:28
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Thanks to Kåarto and Llyndal40 for their help. However, the person listed in the 1726 church arkivet record is not the person I seek. I did not look that close at the name of the baby girl but it is Randi and the person I'm looking for is Røyen or Røien Andersdatter.
In the following arkiwerket forum Mikkel Asbjørnsen is discussed near the end of the discussion. It relates to an article in Årbok for Hadeland 1968 s 42 ff er det en artikkel 'Mestersmeden på Kittelsrud' av Sverre Lysgaard. This article mentions Mikkel's three wifes which includes Røyen but does not give any details of her birth date, place or family.
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/142001-56594-leter-etter-daapsdato-for-anders-michelsen-foedt-i-gran-hadeland/ |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 09:52:53
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Karen f. Jun 1746 on Hønenfossen.
She was baptized July 2, see first record on right page.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 09:58:56
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The other children:
Engelbreth was baptized Sept 8 at Norderhov church, see left page at Dom 13 p. Trin.
Anders was baptized Febr 18 at Hougs Annex, see next to last record on left page.
Mari was baptized Febr 2 at Norderhov Church, see left page.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 21:29:42
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A candidate for Røyen Andersdatter is the child baptized April 15 1725 (no name in record) of Anders Haraldsen, Hønefoss and Karen Andersdatter, see last record on right page.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 21:58:00
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Very interesting Einar. Here are some of the other children for this couple, perhaps the names can provide a clue.
Name: Harald Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 feb 1718
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Anders Haraldsen
Mother: Karen Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
Name: Engebret Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 19 jul 1722
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Anders Haraldsen
Mother: Karen Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
And the child that Einar found.
Name: Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 apr 1725
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Anders Haralsen
Mother: Karen Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124050 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 22:04:19
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Einar may have got it. Here is Rønnoy Andersdatter Farm Name?? confirmation in 1740. Exactly 15 years after baptism record. Perhaps someone with good eyes can read the farm name. Looks a bit like Høng?. See the tail end of the thrid line in the confirmations for the girls.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8523&idx_id=8523&uid=ny&idx_side=-4
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 20:21:58
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First, again thanks for all the help.
Then, Røyen Andersdatter Hønefossen is listed in the 1740 Confirmation class of Oct 2 or 16 after Trinity 1740. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8523&idx_id=8523&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Røyen listed as the first line of the ladies grouping.
lyndal40 posted that he had found a possible Røyen (Rønnoy) but he was off by a couple of months.
However, he and eibach were probably right about Anders Harelsen (Haraldsen) with the "no name" birth on 15 Apr 1725.
As far as I can tell it does not state boy or girl.
In addition to the other ttwo births mentioned, Harald d. 23 feb 1718 and Engebret d. 19 Jul 1722, the first Harald was baptized on 23 Oct 1712 (p079 in DA church record) and Marte was baptized on 15 Dec 1715 (p216 in DA church record).
Anders Harelsen Holmstuen and Kari Andersdatter Berg were married on 20 Jan 1712 in Norderhov.
Another interesting fact is that there is an Engelbret Andersen present as a witness for some of Michel Asbjørnsen and Karen Røyen's children,
1. Karen Michelsdtr. born Jun 1746 at Hønefossen (p075 DA church records).
Witnesses: Knud Berg, Engelbretz Andersen, Ragnild Nieldtr., Marthe Eggarsdtr., and Marthe Asbjørnsdtr.
2. Engelbratz Michelsen born Sep 1748 (p110 DA church records).
Witnesses: Lage Asbjørnsen, Alf Larsen, Marthe Asbjørnsdtr., Gunnild Johansdtr., Siri Gulbrandsdtr.
3. Ander Michelsen born Feb 1750 (p130 in DA church records).
Witnesses: Engelbratz Andersen, Ole Olsen, Ole Ammundsen, Ragnild Nielsdtr., Gunnild Gulbransdtr.
4. Mari Michelsdtr. born Jan 1753 (p180 DA church records).
Witnesses: Alf Larsen, Lage Asbjørnsen, Lisbet Sorensdtr., Gunild Johansdtr., Siri Gulbrandsdtr.
5. Asbjørn Michelsen born Oct 1755 (p232 in DA church records. Witnesses: Ellling ..?.., Lage Asbjørnsen, Marthe Eggarsdtr., Lisbet Ammundsdtr., Mari Knudsdtr.
The question is - is this Engelbratz Andersen Røyen's brother?
This fact (if true) along with In the confirmation listing, Røyen's residence is listed as Hønefossen which is where Anders Harelsen is living at the birth of the child in 1725 means that Anders Harelsen is Røyen's father. However, there is no proof. |
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