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dylankylesimon
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  07:35:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Norway Heritage Members,

I am trying to find the prior History and Origin of Peter E. Simon (Norwegian with Norwegian Father and Mother) born Sep. 1849. I have done quiet some research and here are the facts:

1849 - 1885 - What happen in between these years? Exact Name of Peter E Simon? Possibly Edmund? Origin? Parents?
1870 - Immigration to the US (Census 1900, 1910, 1920) and Residence since 1870 of Minnesota.
1880 - Naturalization to the US (Census 1920)
1883 - Estimated Marriage to Matthea "Mattie" Simon (Possibly Tonlson Last Name) (17 Years of Marriage in Census 1900) (Mattie Simon Marriage Year 1883) (Peter, 29 (1878) at Marriage Census 1930)
1884 - Birth of Son Edmund Simon (1885 Census says Edmon Simon)
1885 - Citizen of Winona, Winona, Minnesota (Peter E. Simon with Mattie Simon and Edmon Simon)
1895 - Citizen of St. Olaf, Otter Trail, Minnesota (Peter E. Simons with Mattie Simon and Edmund Simon)
1900 - Citizen of Ashby Village, Pelican Lake Township, Grant County, Minnesota (Peter E. Simon with Mathea Simon)
1900 - 1905 - Estimated Divorce from Matthea "Mattie" Simon
1905 - Citizen of St. Olaf, Otter Trail, Minnesota (P. E. Simon)
1910 - Citizen of St. Olaf, Otter Trail, Minnesota (Peter E. Simon)
1920 - Citizen of St. Olaf, Otter Trail, Minnesota (Pete Simon)
1925 - Citizen of South Dakota (Mattie Simon Spouse's Maiden Name: Tonlson)
1930 - Inmate of Minneapolis (Districts 1-250), Hennepin, Minnesota (Peter E. Simon)
1932, May 30 - Death in Hennepin County, Minnesota (Peter E. Simon) (Cert. Number 1932-MN-019475)

Also I would like to know, what causes Peter E. Simon to be an Inmate in 1930 and all his fellow Norwegian Inmates?

- Dylan K Simon (Great-Great-Great Grandchild)

Edited by - dylankylesimon on 22/01/2019 07:36:49

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  08:46:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's a resident of the Ebenezer Home for the Aged and Poor in 1930. He is quite elderly and perhaps the family was unable to take care of him?

In a short announcement in the Fergus Falls Ugeblad pub 17 May 1922 in which P.E. Simon greets Ringerikegernes he says "mit gamle norske navn er Petter Evensen Hagastuen, Marigaardseie." my old norwegian name is Petter Evensen Hagastuen, Marigaardseie. I'd look for him in Ringerike, Norway.

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/01/2019 09:48:19
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  09:46:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't quiet understand, can you provide more background or a link?

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

He's a resident of the Ebenezer Home for the Aged and Poor in 1930. He is quite elderly and perhaps the family was unable to take care of him?




Edited by - dylankylesimon on 22/01/2019 09:47:07
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  09:50:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a link to the possible in Norderhov 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038084009386
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dylankylesimon
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USA
200 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  09:54:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How are you coming to that conclusion?
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a link to the possible in Norderhov 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038084009386

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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  12:41:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Here is the baptizm of the Peter/Petter found by jkmarler.
No 119:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314630148

The family live at Marigaardeie and Norderhov is in Ringerike.

Vivi
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  12:57:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

You find his emigration listed on this list in 1870 5. jan:
http://www.rddlag.org/emigrants/1870.htm


Vivi
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  14:22:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dylankylesimon

How are you coming to that conclusion?
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a link to the possible in Norderhov 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038084009386





The article he wrote himself as P.E. Simon of Dalton, Minnesota to the editor of the Fergus Falls, Minnesota Ugeblad (weekly paper published in Norwegian available for free at chronicling America and the Minnesota Digital Newspaper Hub online), tells that his old Norwegian name is Petter Evenson Hagastuen, Marigaardseie. Couple that with his only known US birthdate of Sept 1849, check the baptismal record from Norderhov, (which is part of Ringerike which is also part of his letter) which Vivi posted link to.

As to your other cheeky question about the 1930 census, my word of advice is to always look at the images in addition to the index. You wondered why he was an "inmate" and I wondered what kind of institution. The name of the institution is at the top of the page.

At familysearch, where this image is hosted you have to have registered (it's free) and be signed in to view. This is the address of the image:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHV-CHQ?i=38&cc=1810731
and this
abstraction: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3ZV-QTJ


Edited by - jkmarler on 22/01/2019 14:30:33
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  14:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I don't quiet understand, can you provide more background or a link?

Originally posted by jkmarler

He's a resident of the Ebenezer Home for the Aged and Poor in 1930. He is quite elderly and perhaps the family was unable to take care of him?



You listed the 1930 census in the opening posting of this thread. If you look again at the page where you found "Peter E Simon" that page heading clearly lists the name of the Institution where he is residing. A home for the aged and poor...
You have to make up your own mind as to WHY he is there - no specific reason is listed.
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  15:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Jackie's find in the Fergus Falls Ugeblad is such a gem that it deserves to be displayed here.



A greeting to people from Ringerike!

As most people don't know me un-
der the name that I use here in
(the) U.S., I will inform you that my old
Norwegian name is Petter Evensen
Hagastuen, Marigaardseie.

P.E. Simon, Dalton, Minn.

And it is clearly no coincidence that he chose the date of May 17th for this greeting.

Edited by - ToreL on 22/01/2019 15:41:30
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  18:12:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mattie Simon is living in Watertown, South Dakota in 1905:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67XP-J6?i=525&cc=1477737

The 1925 South Dakota census is the source for her maiden name. It's hard to read and I'd invite all others to check and decide on the interpretation of it:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GYH-7GJ?i=362&cc=1476077

"Miss Mattie Simon returned last week from Wisconsin where she has been visiting relatives and friends for several weeks."
Saturday news. (Watertown, S.D.), 24 July 1908. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress. <http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn2001063549/1908-07-24/ed-1/seq-7/>

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/01/2019 18:25:20
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  19:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vivi

Hi

You find his emigration listed on this list in 1870 5. jan:
http://www.rddlag.org/emigrants/1870.htm





In this case 5/1 is May 1st, not Jan. 5th; here is the original entry in the parish registry on Ungk. (bachelor) Peter Evensen Marigaard, born 23/9 '49, leaving Norderhov for America on May 1st 1870: (Last entry on page.)

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111040429

Edited by - ToreL on 22/01/2019 19:02:36
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  21:14:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you seen this? Castlewood is where Mattie lived in 1915.

https://southdakotagravestones.org/view.php?id=223752
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  21:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
The 1925 South Dakota census is the source for her maiden name. It's hard to read and I'd invite all others to check and decide on the interpretation of it:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GYH-7GJ?i=362&cc=1476077



It is a mess, but I suppose Paulson is not impossible, and look at her family status as sister in the 1920 census; this also explains the "auntie" on her tombstone:

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/6061/4389728_00056?pid=53152524&backurl=
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 :  21:38:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a 21 year old Anton Paulson leaving Ullensaker in 1869...
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000394223

And another 20 year old Peter Anton Paulson Nerschte leaving V. Toten in 1869:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000398100

And in 1900 the Anton Paulson in Castlewood's mother Agnes Paulson is living with him:
Anton Paulson Head M 44 Norway
Jennie Paulson Wife F 38 Ohio
Chase Paulson Son M 10 South Dakota
Clyde Paulson Son M 8 South Dakota
Gladys Paulson Daughter F 6 South Dakota
Verne Paulson Son M 1 South Dakota
Agnes Paulson Mother F 81 Norway
Maud Benizen Niece F 28 Ohio
John Walsh Boarder M 24 Kentucky
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMR7-S63 : accessed 22 January 2019), Anton Paulson, Castlewood & Hamlin Townships Casltewood town, Hamlin, South Dakota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 157, sheet 10B, family 174, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,550.

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/01/2019 21:43:25
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ToreL
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Norway
759 Posts

Posted - 22/01/2019 :  21:51:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We should also look for Poulson, as it is written in the 1910 census: (And which has a slightly better resemblance with Mattie's maiden name in the 1925 census.)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9TD7-DN?cc=1727033

These are clearly the same people, though the given immigration years of 1869 and 1876 are widely apart.
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