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ShaylaCrossley
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  16:25:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there,

I am attempting to trace our roots and hopefully even find possible family photos if they exist. I have done as much of our family tree on ancestry.ca as I can without upping my subscription. The one line of our family that I seem to run out quickly is my great great grandfather Louis Larson that we believe (was formerly of the Østby family/Farmstead?) who immigrated from Norway around 1893 I believe and ended up residing in Minnesota or Wisconsin
Mattsson Østby is the only lead I have for his father
The Other dates I have:
Possible birthdate August 4 1867 Bergen Hordaland Norway
Possible death date July 6 1941 Thief River Falls, Pennington Minnesota
Marriage date was August 12, 1893 in Grand Forks North Dakota

I do know that surnames and given names were changed when moving to America for a lot of people so I’m hoping the Østby name helps.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Shayla

AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  17:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this the Louis Larsen that you are enquiring about.

Louis Larson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Louis Larson
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1867
Death Date: 6 Jul 1941
Cemetery: Greenwood Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Thief River Falls, Pennington County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N

Louis Larsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Louis Larsen
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1893
Marriage Place: Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
Spouse: Amelia Bergstrom
Church Name: United Lutheran
Church Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota

Louis Larson
in the North Dakota, Marriage Records, 1872-2017
Name: Louis Larson
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1867
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1893
Marriage Place: Grand Forks, Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
Spouse: Amelia Bergstrom

Edited by - AntonH on 07/02/2020 22:24:57
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  18:02:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your Louis might be named Lars in Norway and thus would be Lars Larsen born about 1867 and the son of a Lars who may have lived on the Østby farm. I have not found an Østby or Østbye farm in Hordaland . Here are a few Lars Larsen born abt 1867 on an Østby farm in the 1875 Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052100002514

Lars Larsen (b. 1866, Lynner Jevnaker) (male) Domicile: Jevnaker: Østby Parents Lars Poulsen and Karen Jensdatter

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052100002514

Lars Larsen (b. 1866, Tydals S. Selbu Pr.) (male) Domicile: Selbu: Østby Parents Lars Jensen Østby and Ingeborg Thomasdatter


https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052379007626

Lars Larsen (b. 1869, Tydals S. og Selbu Pr.) (male) Domic[/s
ile: Selbu: Østby Parents Lars Larsen Østby and Marit Olsdatter

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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  18:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of the three above the most interesting is the first one.

Lars Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Lars Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 aug 1867
Baptism Date: 29 sep 1867
Baptism Place: , Jevnaker, Opland, Norway
Father: Lars Poulsen
Mother: Karen Jensdr
FHL Film Number: 307299

He was born on August 4, 1867 and baptized on September 29.

Click number 66 for the original record.

#66

Confirmation in 1882.

#2

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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  18:20:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lars Poulsen and family in 1865 Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038070005992

Marriage, gives the fathers name of Lars and Karen

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000000132156

1891 Censs young Lars Larsen is not living with the family. I did notice in the 1900 Census that Louis Larson emigrated in 1886.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052768001680
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  19:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tri County Forum pub Thief River Falls Minn 10 July 1941 has an obituary for Louis Larson on page 4 col 6 " Last Rites Held Today for Goodridge Man"

It's searchable at the Old Fulton history site.

Roughly the obit says Louis was born 4 August 1867 in Hedahlen Norway and came to Fillmore county [Minnesota?] in 1885, spent two years on the west coast and came to Grand Forks in 1890 and married Emily Bergstrom there three years later. He homesteaded 12 miles north of this city [Thief River Falls?] in 1898. He is survived by son Leonard of Goodridge, daughters Mrs. Charles Lagerstadt and Mrs. Herman Olson both of Chicago, Mrs. Albert Proath of Piny, Canada and a brother named Gulbrand and sister Karen Olemh in Norway and 13 grandchildren. His wife, 2 brothers and 4 sisters have preceded him in death.

Clara Lagerstadt's death in Chicago:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MN-D3Z5

Esther Larson's marriage:
MARSHALL F-262 03/01/1916 PORATH, ALBERT LARSON, ESTHER


Edited by - jkmarler on 08/02/2020 14:28:36
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  22:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lars Poulsen born 1814 on Østbye.

Father is Poul Larsen and mother is Giertrud Poulsdatter

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007060186

Lars Paulsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Lars Paulsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 nov 1814
Baptism Date: 13 nov 1814
Baptism Place: Jevnaker, Oppland, Norway
Father: Paul Larssen
Mother: Gerterud Poulsdatter
FHL Film Number: 125505

Last record right hand page e

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603810309

Edited by - AntonH on 07/02/2020 23:03:54
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  23:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that the Østby farm you are referring to is in Lunner Parish, Oppland, Norway. Lunner Parish was a part of Jevnaker Parish, Oppland until 1906. In the Family Search page for Lunner you will find Østby under the farm names. Most of the data is found by searching either Jevnaker or Lunner Parish.

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Lunner_Parish,_Oppland,_Norway_Genealogy

Edited by - AntonH on 07/02/2020 23:40:05
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2020 :  23:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely Gerterud Poulsdatter living on Østby farm in the 1801 Census. She is listed as Guertru Paalsdatter and was born about 1775. Father is Paul Olsen and mother is Anne Chrestoffersdatter

1801

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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  00:05:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a lot of candidates for the husband of Gertrud. This is the only one I found. In the 1801 he is Poul Larsen living Kalsiø farm and is married. However his wife Kersti Gulbrandsdatter is 72 so it is possible that she died and Poul Larsen married Gerterud before the birth of their son Lars in 1814.

1801
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Hopkins
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  03:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyndal40 (Anton) -- I think you are exactly right in your thinking above. I'm left wondering where the family came up with "Hedahlen" as his place of origin as published in his obituary. But then I must remember in the small town mid-west newspaper that published my own great-grandfather's obituary that he was from "Javensnakers", Yes, it was actually Jevnaker. Gran and Jevnaker, including Lunner are all part of the region which has also been known as Hadeland and that must be what was being attempted with "Hedahlen".
While there exists no bygdebok for the Gran and Jevnaker (Hadeland) areas the parish records are for the most part quite usable, reasonably accessible and there is an active group online interested in learning about emigrants from the area - Hadeland Lag of America. https://www.hadelandlag.org/
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  03:31:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Hopkins. This record that I just dug up out of the ELCA records might shed some light on what the location really is.

Here is a record form the ELCA from Thief River Falls when the family was living there. This record is from 1912.

Ester Adelia Larson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ester Adelia Larson
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Place: Grand Forks North Dakota, USA
Confirmation Date: 25 Aug 1912
Father: Louis Larson
Mother: Amelia Larson
Church Name: Bethlehem
Church Location: Thief River Falls, Minnesota

At about the same time (no date on the page ) is this record for the members of the congregation.

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

Here the location in Norway looks more like Hadeland.

Edited by - AntonH on 08/02/2020 03:31:53
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  03:35:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This passage from Wikipedia seems to confirm that the area of Norway that Lars Larsen aka Louis Larson was from was Jevnaker/Lunner.

"Hadeland [1] is a traditional district in the south-eastern part of Norway. It is centered on the southern part of Randsfjorden in Innlandet (formerly Oppland) and Viken (formerly Buskerud),[2] and consists of the municipalities Gran in Innlandet County and Jevnaker and Lunner in Viken County. "

However the Wikipedia article needs to make it clearer that Jevnaker and Lunner were not part of Buskerud but part of Oppland.

And I wonder are the old parishes of Jevnaker and Lunner really now included in Viken?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadeland

It also gives us a another birth date and likely from a time when Louis Larson was still alive.

Edited by - AntonH on 08/02/2020 17:41:14
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Hopkins
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  04:03:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hadeland plain as day!! I couldn't be happier.

Lutheran ministers so often so good about keeping such notes! I recommend such research often even if it means a trip to the old church building at a great distance and getting the permission of the current church council. Been there - done that and it was wonderful! Luckily the old records there were kept entirely in Norwegian and I had some practice already with births/baptisms etc.
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ShaylaCrossley
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  04:24:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow!!! Thank you so much for all of this. I did not expect such wonderful helpful responses but I am so appreciative of them. I will look into this all and it looks like I may be getting the answers I was hoping. So excited to learn what I can!

Edited by - ShaylaCrossley on 08/02/2020 04:25:09
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/02/2020 :  14:11:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

This passage from Wikipedia seems to confirm that the area of Norway that Lars Larsen aka Louis Larson was from was Jevnaker/Lunner.

"Hadeland (local pronunciation ['h#593;#720;læn#720;])[1] is a traditional district in the south-eastern part of Norway. It is centered on the southern part of Randsfjorden in Innlandet (formerly Oppland) and Viken (formerly Buskerud),[2] and consists of the municipalities Gran in Innlandet County and Jevnaker and Lunner in Viken County. "

However the Wikipedia article needs to make it clearer that Jevnaker and Lunner were not part of Buskerud but part of Oppland.

And I wonder are the old parishes of Jevnaker and Lunner really now included in Viken?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadeland

It also gives us a another birth date and likely from a time when Louis Larson was still alive.



Jevnaker appears to be in Viken according to Google....https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jevnaker+Municipality,+Norway/@60.3158521,10.2934414,11.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4641af393ca16d91:0xafa4c480d5eb0154!8m2!3d60.2406865!4d10.4484779

Also at norgeskart.no:
https://norgeskart.no/#!?project=norgeskart&layers=1002&zoom=7&lat=6726394.79&lon=140022.18&markerLat=6649176.291659507&markerLon=262879.1258857402&panel=searchOptionsPanel&sok=viken

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/02/2020 14:27:24
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