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mortsog
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  09:51:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martin Martinsen born 10 sep 1866, baptized 10 march 1867 in Brandval,Hedmark. He was born out of wedlock and lived with his mother and her new husband in Grue in the 1875 census. Last signal from him known to me is confirmation in Grue 30 oct. 1881. There are 2 Martin Martinsen from Grue that emigrated in 1887 and1887. Could this one I found in New York census 1915 be the right one?

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2703/images/32848_B094152-00457?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  14:39:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be he?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000017859359
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mortsog
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  15:02:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, this is he:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052069004611

His baptism at the bottom : SAH, Brandval prestekontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1864-1879, s. 26
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070125320148


The 2 that emigrated:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001007293
and
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001022242

Edited by - mortsog on 13/10/2020 15:08:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  18:45:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the transcribed vesion of the New York State Census.

Martin Martinson
in the New York, State Census, 1915
Name:
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 49
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, Kings
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 28
Assembly District: 07
House Number: 337
Line Number: 30
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Martinson 49
Christina Martinson 50
Alfred Martinson 21
Edward Martinson 7
Emma Martinson 19
Christiana Martinson 15
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  18:48:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like the same family in the 1910 Census, but he is called Jens?

Jens Martensen
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Jens Martensen
[Jens Martinsen]
Age in 1910: 44
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 22, Kings, New York
Street: Twenty Second Street
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's Name: Christina Martensen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Carpenter
Industry: Shop
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 20
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jens Martensen 44
Christina Martensen 45
Alfred G Martensen 16
Emma Martensen 14
Christina Martensen 10
Edward A Martensen 2
Anna Martensen 46

The Anna Marensen is listed as his sister. Did your Martin have a such a sister?

Edited by - AntonH on 13/10/2020 18:56:25
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  18:58:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Find-A-Grave gives his birth date as 1865.

Jens Martinsen
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Jens Martinsen
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1865
Death Date: 9 Feb 1944
Cemetery: Hillside Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Metuchen, Middlesex County, New Jersey, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Christine Martinsen
Children: Alfred Gordon Martinsen
Emma Olsen
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  19:05:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As does his wedding record, also parents do not seem to match?


Jens Martinsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-196Name: Jens Martinsen
Name: Jens MartinsenGender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1865
Birth Place: Boröen Norge
Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1890
Marriage Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Martin Jensen
Mother: Elna Afdahl
Spouse: Christina Bachus
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York
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mortsog
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  20:10:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, I do not think Jens is the right man. Date of birth, name of parents also incorrect. And why change name to Jens. The 2 in the emigration records, are they traceable?

Edited by - mortsog on 13/10/2020 20:12:11
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  21:55:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000001021251

Here is the arrival of Martin Martisen in 1888. Some of the same passengers on this ship as on the emigration record. No real information on where he is going.

Martin Martinson
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Martin Martinson
Arrival Date: 4 May 1888
Birth Date: abt 1868
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: USA
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Britannic

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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  22:03:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a candidate for the 1887 emigration. His destination was Champion.

Here is a Martin Martins in the 1900 Census living in Champion, Marquette, Michigan. However his arrival year is listed as 1888. He has 1888 for 1910, 1920, and 1930 Census.

Martin Martinson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin Martinson
[Marlin Martinson]
Age: 35
Birth Date: Sep 1864
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Champion, Marquette, Michigan
House Number: 1
Sheet Number: 7
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 112
Family Number: 112
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Martinson
Marriage Year: 1895
Years Married: 5
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 12
Naturalization: Papers
Occupation: Surface Miner
Months Not Employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: H
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Martinson 35
Mary Martinson 34
Margaret Martinson 5
Andrew Cole 38
Charlie Larson 43

Probably his death record.

Martin Martinson
in the Michigan, Death Records, 1867-1952
Name: Martin Martinson
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital status: Widowed
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1864
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 8 Sep 1946
Death Place: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan, USA
Father: Christin Martinson
File Number: 005318



Edited by - AntonH on 13/10/2020 22:11:55
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  23:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible for Martin Martinsen arrival 1887

Found him looking for Kari Bursveen. Original manifest is very difficult to read.

Kari Bursxeen
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Kari Bursxeen
Arrival Date: 6 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1859
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Massachusetts
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: City of Richmond

He is number 6

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Edited by - AntonH on 13/10/2020 23:15:28
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  23:18:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the transcribed record for him.

Martin Martinmer
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Martin Martinmer
Arrival Date: 6 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Massachusetts
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: City of Richmond

I am not sure I would trust the destination of Massachusetts as that is next to the person 13 places above Martin.


Edited by - AntonH on 13/10/2020 23:21:22
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