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Caroline Falk
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  12:51:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am trying to find any information at all about Peter Falk from Kristiansund who had a son Christian Falk in1841.
Christian was born in about 1841 0r 1842.
Christian came to England and Married Elizabeth Biggs in 1868. he became a Police constable in Burton Upon Trent England.
He appears in the English census in 1871,8181,8191,and 1901.
They had two sons, Joseph and Edward.
Elizabeth died in 1904.
Christian died tragically in 1908.
I have been round in circles for years trying to trace how Christian came to England and how/when he became a Naturalized British Subject.
any help at all would be amazing . thank you.
Caroline Falk

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  14:14:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here in this census 1871 Christian's birthplace named as Christiansund, Norway:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDD6-J7G

Here is the indexed marriage record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DKN-J8G

Do you have the original document?

Edited by - jkmarler on 10/04/2021 14:36:36
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Caroline Falk
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  14:31:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here in this census 1871 Christian's birthplace named as Christiansund, Norway:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDD6-J7G

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Caroline Falk
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  14:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello jkmarler,
Thank you for your interest.
I have worked on this for a number of years and found the infomation you so kindly sent me already.
The part of the story that is missing is the part before Christian came over to England.
I cant find his how he became a Naturalized British Subject,
How he came to England,
His occupation before his life in England and where he actually came from,
and who were his parentS
It is all a bit of a mystery but hopefully I will find out eventually
Kind regards
Caroline
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Caroline Falk
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  14:42:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
/Users/carolinecleeve/Desktop/Death Of Christian Falk.pdf/Users/carolinecleeve/Desktop/Death Certificate.JPG/Users/carolinecleeve/Desktop/Marriage Certificate of Christian and Elizabeth Falk.jpg
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  14:50:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the 2010 topic on Christian Falk:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4499

Among the problems you face with this research is that, if Christian was actually born in Christiansund, those vital records were destroyed by fire and are fragmentary.

Edited by - jkmarler on 10/04/2021 14:52:42
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  15:06:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This page gives his d.o.b. as 26.06.1842, and mother = Anne Sophie Sivertsdatter (1811 - )
https://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/christian-falk-24-f2qtmy
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  15:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Christian August Falk might not be the best candidate:
Here in 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038278002059

Here in 1875 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052326003807

Here in 1891 census, on his way on the St. Olaf from Trondheim to Blyth England:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053030002815

Means he would have to have a "double" life....
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  15:58:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Christian August Falch died in London in 1905...


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Caroline Falk
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  16:00:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello,
thank you for the reply, I have been working on this for several years on ancestry.com and have had to delete some information up to the wedding of Christian to Elizabeth, where Peter Falk is named as Christians Father. Would you care to see what I have so far, I could invite you to see the Falk family ?
regards Caroline
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Caroline Falk
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Posted - 10/04/2021 :  16:05:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my tree is under the name of carocleeve Falk Family Tree. I am not sure if you can view it, but you are most welcome to see what I have done .
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2021 :  02:41:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a public family tree title O'Neill family tree in Ancestry.
They identify your Christian Falk as Christian August Falk, son of Christian Rogert Falk and Anne Sivertsdatter. But they don't include any of the Christian August Falk connections in Norway.

Here he is in the 1865 census, single and employed as a sailor living with his parents and siblings:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038278002059


Here he is in the 1875 census, married to Johanne Jertine Rodin with their two sons, his father-in-law John Albert Rodin and his parents:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052326003807

Here he is in 1891 census, married living with family and employees and others:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053030002815

A man might have two lives but he only gets one death. Christian August Falk dies in 1905, so cannot be alive to be killed in a train accident in 1908. Something has to give.

Edited by - jkmarler on 11/04/2021 02:51:56
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2021 :  02:48:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
his page gives his d.o.b. as 26.06.1842, and mother = Anne Sophie Sivertsdatter (1811 - )
https://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/christian-falk-24-f2qtmy


That seems to track back to the family of Christian Rogert Falk. I think Jackie has eliminated that family and the son Christian August Falk born about 1842 in Kristiansund.

Here is Annie and family in 1865

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038278002057

And Kristian Aug. Falk born about 1842 can be found with wife in the 1885 Census in Kristiansund.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053299003782


Edited by - AntonH on 11/04/2021 02:49:31
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2021 :  03:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is this book in the Norwegian National Library. Can anyone take a look and see if there are any helpful connections?

Slektene Muus, Falch, Falck, Falk, Falch (Falck)-Muus og Muus-Falch (Falck)]
Gram, H. T.
1987
Tilgang for norske IP-adresser
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2021 :  07:18:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

There is this book in the Norwegian National Library. Can anyone take a look and see if there are any helpful connections?

Slektene Muus, Falch, Falck, Falk, Falch (Falck)-Muus og Muus-Falch (Falck)]
Gram, H. T.
1987
Tilgang for norske IP-adresser


No mention of any Peter or Christian Falk in that book. No mention of any Falk from Kristiansund or Møre & Romsdal at all...
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2021 :  08:34:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

There is this book in the Norwegian National Library. Can anyone take a look and see if there are any helpful connections?

Slektene Muus, Falch, Falck, Falk, Falch (Falck)-Muus og Muus-Falch (Falck)]
Gram, H. T.
1987
Tilgang for norske IP-adresser


No mention of any Peter or Christian Falk in that book. No mention of any Falk from Kristiansund or Møre & Romsdal at all...



Many thanks.
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